Everyone has different requirements and preferences obviously. I used Achieve Corporation for the past couple of years for my pay administration and found they cover my requirements well. I think they now also have offices in some other states. I'm content to pay for the services of an expert provider, and use my time for other things I'm more interested in doing. It's a matter of finding what fits all your particular requirements. (www.achievecorp.com.au) Diana Canberra Work 02 6245 2100 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:austechwriter-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry D Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2005 2:35 PM To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: atw: Re: Umbrella companies - long - maybe OT for you I love to say "I hate to disagree", but I'd be lying. The only reason you should consider setting up a company is if it gives you advantages in obtaining work. Like the financial advisers say of real estate investment, don't do it just for the tax breaks. I think there are very few tax advantages to having a company these day--and if you think there are, I'd say you should be nervous if you get audited. I have been working through my own company for 15 years and the paperwork effort, when compared to being an employee, is quite onerous.=20 It can be simple things like getting a warning from the tax office regarding group certificates. Certain that I'd done nothing wrong, I spent around two hours on the phone (because the first two times I had to hang up after about 30 minutes in the queue!) to find out it was a 'computer error'.=20 If you time your holidays poorly and miss a due date for super or BAS, it hits the fan again. I missed a super payment by two days. For that I had to pay a penalty of a fixed fee plus 10% of the super bill for the whole year for all staff. I know there are plenty of people out there who claim their travel from home (office) to workplace as one of the main benefits. I believe the ATO frowns on this and I never have. Possibly my loss, but there again, I want good policing, education, roads...=20 But, yes, I do think having to pay close to $40k per year in tax through the company is also wrong--on what I get as a personal income. FBT has captured most of the other previously available benefits. Apart from all that, I think it's stupid to pay ASIC and your accountant $1500 to save $1500 tax. I'm sure the government would provide better community services with the money than your accountant does. My $40k's worth, Terry Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com=20 ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************