atw: Re: Strange job advertisments/skills combinations
- From: sheetal_laviena@xxxxxxxxxxx
- To: austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:55:01 +1100
CBK, I have come across tests where the applicant was asked to write a
procedure to fit a light bulb.
I think these questions are more to see if you have an eye for detail, your
writing etc...they may not always be 'trick questions'......do you think in
your case, an assumption at the beginning of the procedure would have done
the trick?
Joe, I do agree...but I have to say that tech-writers do have some sort of
a standard turnover...don't know what it exactly is...but in my previous
company......4 new windows with a maximum of 8 new fields in them was the
expected turnover for a day.
Regards and thanks,
Sheetal Laviena.
"BIRTLEY-KENT,Christine"
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Good point - it does provide the opportunity to show off.=20
I was once asked to write a 'test' to demonstrate my writing skills for
a potential contract. Guess what - how to make a cup of coffee. I sent
them a beautifully laid out questionnaire asking what type of coffee
(instant, plunger etc), what coffee making facilities, where, whether
the milk or sugar were available or had to be acquired etc etc. I
didn't get the role.=20
cbk
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:24 AM
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Yeah, I hear what you say, CBK, and I'm not saying bja's concerns aren't
relevant..
IMNSHO though, I like the ad. If taken from the perspective that they
might actually know what a tech writer does, and know what a good tech
writer should produce, it would act as a magic filter system...
Say fer instance a newbie applies and states they can produce 20 pages a
day... immediate fail... unrealistic self-expectations.
Say perhaps a reasonably experienced tech writer applies and stating
they can produce 5 pages per day, but does not mention that this can
vary depending of difficulty of app, availability of SMEs and variations
in toolsets provided by company... Fail again, seemingly unaware of the
variations from task to task.
Then someone like bja, or cbk comes along, states a range of possible
page-per-day results, lists the possible factors affecting production
rate, queries the need for such a tight skill set... Immediate second
interview because these people obviously have what it takes to
realistically assess and plan for a task...immediately exhibiting the
level of tech writer knowledge and skill required for a serious tech
writing job...
Sure as hell would cut through the several hundred wanna be applicants.
Joe Zolin
Technical Communicator/Tech Comms MYOB
E-mail: JOE.ZOLIN@xxxxxxxxxxx
Phone (work): (03) 9222 9992 Ext. 7429
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Nonetheless, it is still impossible to quote a pages per day rate
without assessing the environment for which you are developing those
pages. My rate can vary from 1 to 16 depending upon degree of
difficulty and quality expectations.
Perhaps someone who is applying for work in Melbourne will apply and let
us know what happens. It doesn't hurt to stay informed.
There is an ad in Canberra at the moment asking for an e-learning
developer. The third requirement is:
3. Provision of an eLearning tool that has an inbuilt tool to track
learning administration and can interface with Aurion and meet IT
infrastructure requirements=3D20
How can anyone provide this tool without first knowing the
infrastructure and other variables? And how many training developers
are software vendors? Realistically they need to be asking for someone
with 'the skills to find' an appropriate eLearning tool....
I would be interested to know if these people get inundated by the wrong
type of applicants too.
ck
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I thought they were asking how many pages a day you could produce, not
the expected charge rate per page.
Direct quote from ad:
"please quote an approximate pages-per-day rate"
Still vague, though, but I've got a feeling that bja migyht be jumping
the gun a bit here.
Also, consider the reasons for not stating company name... If the
company actually said who they were, there would be flock (or should I
say
murder..) of agencies descending upon them trying to get the listing and
subsequant placement fee for their own.
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Joe Zolin
Technical Communicator/Tech Comms MYOB
E-mail: JOE.ZOLIN@xxxxxxxxxxx
Phone (work): (03) 9222 9992 Ext. 7429
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