Hi Steve Just for information, I am not responsible for the 'competencies (ie the chapter headings and content) . These are set by government 'experts'. I just write to something someone else has designed and try to make the most of it. These are TAFE courses for consumption of the general public - similar to the Cert IV in.I Workplace Assessment and Training - which whilst being an embarrassment to any professional trainer, is now taking over as an industry standard. Regards, Christine Ph: +61 7 4958 3107 Mobile: 0407 604010 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hudson" <cruddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: [austechwriter] Re: Perceptions in the industry > Very, very interesting stuff Chrissy. All I have is a bunch of anecdotal > evidence to chuck into the fray, and maybe some vague thoughts :-) The > overall feeling goes back to those "Tech writers are right next door to > these jobs: <insert long list>". I shall be overly harsh with your content > in order to squeeze out as much as possible: > > > Establish Documentation Requirements (effectively an organisational needs > analysis) > > Opinion: > > Doc Reqs and Org needs are two diff things. First you do an Org needs > analysis. This give you scope. Then within this scope you purpose document > types before detailing in the Designs reference. This latter part is doc > reqs. > > Technically speaking the org needs should be completed by a BA, good TWs are > simple BAs as well. > > Anecdote: > > This is a toughy. Enterprises at CMM 2+ do the BA stuff at a management > level. The Tech Pubs manager or Designer does the designs. Us TWs just fill > the gaps in the provided skeletons. Said Tech Pubs manager uses your book > here, not us. Can a Tech Pubs manager be replaced by a secretary? Well, > several large IT-centric enterprises with offices here in Aus have a > secretary running the tech pubs dept, armed with books just like yours. In > several instances this secretary is on 35-45 a year, and their perm staff > under them are on 60-70. > > Smaller companies vary considerably. Some provide you with exact direction > on what they expect next. As you are not managing squat, hopefully the dudes > in the know have your book - highly unlikely if it mentions Q though. They > want results and are almost uniformly scared of the cost of implementing Q > and feel the ROI aint worth it. No secretary can fill in here, unless they > managers really are clueless and think any word collection suffices. > > Some are a joy, you waltz on in, they say "you're the expert - we'll leave > it up to YOU!" in which case the first set of purchases includes your book > :-) No secretary can fill in here. These company managers generally get > expert and user review to judge your work as they acknowledge their > inability to really tell. Secretaries will be sacked quickly, tech writers > will get pay rises. > > > > Manage Template Design and Development > > > Opinion: > > This is what should be next. Your doco needs analysis above leads straight > into this as stated above. You HAVE to have a baseline before you can > measure it. Make thy baseline! Can a secretary design GOOD templates? No, > but they are asked to do it all the time anyway... > > Anecdote: > > 99% of places I walk into have extremely substandard forms and templates. > The secretaries have been tasked and have delivered. > > > > These last steps should be in this order and are hair-splitting the same > thing. > > >Establish and implement Quality Assurance Strategies > >Establish Strategy for Maintenance and Continuous Improvement. > >Establish Quality Standards and Processes > > Opinion: > > Note what's last, not first. Develop strategies before tactics. Successful > strategies ensure you develop a tactical advantage. What % of real world > companies have a real Q commitment and infrastructure? 'k all. > > > Anecdote: > > Who do they put in charge? A secretary or HR lowie. Effectiveness? A single > digit percentage. That having been said, universally if the doco is good > then the Q is good and this role is fulfilled by a professional Quality > dept. > > That having been said, almost everywhere I have been the people in the know > rapidly realise that if they get me involved in their process re-engineering > they get much better processes, not just prettier presentation of the same > old poor process. > > > Opinion: > > Last step should be > > Managing the documentation processes. > > Regular reviews for currency, filing system checks, active and passive > feedback systems, managing change and so on. Change management should be a > chapter on its own. This can be run by a secretary very successfully. Its > probably scattered throughout your other chapters. > > > Summary > ======= > > We are not secretaries. However, a good tech writer CAN be managed by a > competent secretary. Your TAFE users are working in a TAFE. A secretary > there is capable of and does maintain their documentation. It's very > non-technical. A large automotive industry uses a pool of secretaries to do > the same, very successfully. Most real world business is not the > high-faluted IT island in the heart of an enterprise. It is a much smaller > and tamer thing. > > Imagine your local butcher deciding to expand his business to supply a chain > of shops. Could a good secretary help him, with the aid of your book, type > up all the needed stuff? You betchya. Could she do the same for a S/W R&D > company? Notta chance. A major shipping company? Yes, but badly - not badly > enough for anyone to complain though, they haven't seen what magic a TW can > really do for them. > > Steve Hudson > > Word Heretic, Sydney, Australia > Tricky stuff with Word or words for you. > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Products: http://www.geocities.com/word_heretic/products.html > Spellbooks: 728 pages of dump left and dropping... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christine Birtley-Kent > > Hi Guys > > Over the last 12 months I have been writing course materials for TAFE > Certificate IV and Diploma courses. I recently finished writing one called > 'Manage Business Document Design and Development', which involved such > topics as: > > Establish Documentation Requirements (effectively an organisational needs > analysis) > Establish Quality Standards and Processes > Manage Template Design and Development > Establish and implement Quality Assurance Strategies > Establish Strategy for Maintenance and Continuous Improvement. > > To my mind this is a management level course and I wrote it as such > anticipating an audience of experienced technical writers moving to > management level. > > I then decided to find out who was buying this book and what courses they > had placed it into - in the hope that there may be a decent tech writing > course emerging in the TAFE division (which means much cheaper than the > Swinburne course). > > I found this module appearing in two courses called Diploma of > Business Administration. [Note the word 'Admininstration'.] Following are > the descriptions of the audience for the course that appear in their course > descriptions . > > 'This qualification is designed to produce graduates who can provide > administrative support for professionals in the work environment. ' (Moreton > Institute) [Note the words 'administrative support for professionals'.] > > 'This course provides advanced skills and a broad base of knowledge which > can > be applied in a range of situations in an office/clerical environment.' > (Southbank Institute) [Note the word 'clerical'.] > > At no stage are technical writing skills or experience specified. The entry > requirements are either the Certificate IV in which you might have taken > 'Write Complex Documents' as a module, or alternatively 'Substantial current > work experience within an office environment.' > > If we are seen as clerks, then why would we be consulted in management > decisions? > > I wonder how many of us are really presenting as much more than clerks? > (Brave assertions Mike!) Are we now so intimidated by looming unemployment > and so exhausted by excessive work hours and demands, that we are happy to > fade into clerkdom if that is what the boss wants? > > How do we change industry perception so that we are seen as professionals, > not administrative support? > > ck > > > ************************************************** > To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to > austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to > austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. > > To search the austechwriter archives, go to > www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to > austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************************************************** > > ************************************************** > To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. > > To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. > > To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter > > To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ************************************************** ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. 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