Hi Guys Over the last 12 months I have been writing course materials for TAFE Certificate IV and Diploma courses. I recently finished writing one called 'Manage Business Document Design and Development', which involved such topics as: Establish Documentation Requirements (effectively an organisational needs analysis) Establish Quality Standards and Processes Manage Template Design and Development Establish and implement Quality Assurance Strategies Establish Strategy for Maintenance and Continuous Improvement. To my mind this is a management level course and I wrote it as such anticipating an audience of experienced technical writers moving to management level. I then decided to find out who was buying this book and what courses they had placed it into - in the hope that there may be a decent tech writing course emerging in the TAFE division (which means much cheaper than the Swinburne course). I found this module appearing in two courses called Diploma of Business Administration. [Note the word 'Admininstration'.] Following are the descriptions of the audience for the course that appear in their course descriptions . 'This qualification is designed to produce graduates who can provide administrative support for professionals in the work environment. ' (Moreton Institute) [Note the words 'administrative support for professionals'.] 'This course provides advanced skills and a broad base of knowledge which can be applied in a range of situations in an office/clerical environment.' (Southbank Institute) [Note the word 'clerical'.] At no stage are technical writing skills or experience specified. The entry requirements are either the Certificate IV in which you might have taken 'Write Complex Documents' as a module, or alternatively 'Substantial current work experience within an office environment.' If we are seen as clerks, then why would we be consulted in management decisions? I wonder how many of us are really presenting as much more than clerks? (Brave assertions Mike!) Are we now so intimidated by looming unemployment and so exhausted by excessive work hours and demands, that we are happy to fade into clerkdom if that is what the boss wants? How do we change industry perception so that we are seen as professionals, not administrative support? ck ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelist.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************