Hi Don, I'm presuming that you've used the brackets to specify the start and end of a selected time range, and you now want to make small adjustments to them? The keystrokes you've been trying won't work. If there's a selected time range and you press left arrow, then this deselects the selection and moves the cursor to where the start of the selection was. Pressing left arrow some more then moves the cursor to the left. Similar things with right arrow - selection deselected, cursor moves the end of where the selection was, and then moves the cursor to the right. If there's a selected time range and you press comma or period, then the selection is deselected, the cursor moves to the start of where the selection was, and then the keystrokes move the cursor as normal. You can use the following keystrokes If you press Shift + Left Arrow or Shift + Right Arrow this extends the selection by a small amount on either the left or right hand end of the selection respectively. If you press Ctrl + Shift + Left Arrow or Ctrl + Shift + Right Arrow this contracts the selection by a small amount on either the left or right hand end of the selection respectively. However, as Scott has mentioned, the amount moved depends on the zoom level, and blind users can't see what's going on, so this isn't very satisfactory. However, you can use the selection start and selection end/length controls on the selection bar. I think it's worth investing a little time in getting to know how to use these controls. They're described in the selection bar section of the Jaws guide, but the following are some notes I posted in a message a few weeks ago, which give a quick introduction: 1. If the current focus is the tracks, then you can get to the selection bar by pressing ctrl+f6, and when you want to return to the tracks press ctrl+f6 twice. 2. You can move around the controls on the selection bar by pressing tab. 3. There's a start selection control and selection control for either the end or the length of the selection depending on the setting of the pair of end/length radio buttons. 4. You'll want to have the format of the selection controls set to the hh:mm:ss + milliseconds format, and you can set this by using the context menu of either the start selection or the end/length selection controls. Once this has be set, the setting will remain that unless you change it again, so you'll probably only have to do this once. 5. Set the end/length radio buttons to end, because you want to adjust the start and end of the selection independently. (If it's set to length, then if you change the selection start, then the end will move, because the length has remained unchanged). 6. You can now make ajustments using the selection start and selection end controls. So for example if you're in the selection start control. You can quickly move to the tenths of seconds digit by pressing end, and then left arrrow twice. You can then use up and down arrows to move the selection start tenths of a second to the right or left respectively. Want to move by larger increments? Simply press left arrow to move to the seconds digit, and use up and down arrows again. Similarly, to move by smaller increments, move to the hundredths of seconds digit. While the focus is in one of these controls you can use all the normal playback commands to listen to your changes. best wishes, David. ________________________________ From: Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES@xxxxxxxxxx> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2011, 15:48 Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: newbie: how do I remove spurious noise My biggest problem is that I am having problems moving the brackets at all once I have them placed. I have tried using the left and right arrows and also comma and period, but neither of these seems to do the trick. Maybe I am just being very dense about what the using audacity with jaws page is saying, but I just don’t get it yet J From:Scott Berry [mailto:scottbb1973@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 5:45 AM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: newbie: how do I remove spurious noise Well the best way si by learning. You need to put the left bracket at the beginning of the audio you want to take out and the right one at the end of the audio you want to take out. It may also behoove you to zoom in your audio so you can get a better placement of the brackets. To do this use Control Plus 1 to zoom in and Control Plus 0 to zoom out. The more you hit either of these keys for example, hitting Control Plus 1 repeatedly will actually make it when you use the left ! and right arrows to place the markers they will move in smaller increments. On 12/12/2011 01:50 PM, Don Raikes wrote: How do I place the left and right brackets? I use JAWS and like I said earlier, I am just getting started with audacity today. From:Scott Berry [mailto:scottbb1973@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:36 PM To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: newbie: how do I remove spurious noise Hi Don, You'll want to play the file and then place the left and right brackets around the crackling sound and then use the Click Removal. This is under Settings. On 12/12/2011 12:43 PM, Don Raikes wrote: Hello, I have an audio file (wma format) recorded as a monophonic recording. The file contains a harp and violin playing. Roughly 90 seconds into the recording there is a crackling noise similar to someone’s opening a chip bag. I want to remove this little noise, but since I just got started with audacity today, I am nt sure ! how to do this. Any tips would be appreciated. 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