Re: [artworks] Font list?

  • From: Martin Wuerthner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: artworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:08:29 +0200

In message <4f28584077kell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
          Kell  <kell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 26 Sep, Martin Wuerthner <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> It is drawn differently though I would not call it distorted, it just
>> looks bolder than the rest. Its shape is perfect though, and when
>> magnifying it looks OK and it prints fine. The only oddity is that it
>> is drawn without anti-aliasing at low magnifications, but that is an
>> Adobe Reader issue. It appears to have specially optimized code for
>> rendering axis aligned rectangles (which the lower case 'l' happens to
>> be).

> The replacement font also has a lower case 'l' which are axis aligned
> rectangles.

Yes, but the replacement font has a Type1 file, so the issue does not 
arise because the font is embedded as a high quality PostScript Type1 
font.

>> Generally, the "problem" is that the font you used does not have a
>> PostScript definition (Type1 file), so it is exported as an unhinted
>> Type3 font. You will get better quality by using a font with a Type1
>> file in its font directory. The same applies to PostScript printing
>> (and PDF export via PostScript from other applications).

> I do need to properly understand such niceties, which I don't. The Gill
> Sans (which is the company style) font came at great expense from Monotype
> fonts sold by LOOKSystems many moons ago. How would I get a hold of a
> Type1 file? Can one be created?

No. It either comes with the font or it does not. EFF provide Type1 
files with their fonts - originally, that used to be at extra cost. If 
you have the EFF font CD (and who with even the remotest interest in 
fonts can afford to be without it?), then you have complete "Publisher 
fonts" as EFF calls them, i.e., including Type1 files.

>> You can do that now. Simply export as ArtWorks EPS (with "Convert text
>> to shapes" unticked in the EPS configuration). Almost at the beginning
>> of the file you will find a line saying "DocumentFonts:" followed by
>> all the fonts used in the document.

> Well, having used the above mothod, it would appear Gill Sans Bold Italic
> is still apparently in use somewhere in the document (the new one with
> DeGaulle), which I can believe, but also Trinity Medium, which I cannot
> believe.

> Is Trinity there in the same way that ArtWorks used to default to Avant
> Garde? i.e. every document has to have at least one standard font?

Yes, there is always one standard font. Usually, it is 
Homerton.Medium, but that depends on the template document the file 
was created from. If your document does not have Homerton.Medium then 
Trinity.Medium is a good candidate for the standard font. It will not 
do any harm.

Actually, if you really want to know you can find out: The font list 
at the beginning is a superset of the fonts being used. A font is 
really only used if it appears at least a *second* time in the EPS 
file. You will probably find that Trinity does not appear a second 
time.

> I used a text editor to remove the two errant fonts, then tried to load
> the EPS file back into ArtWorks, but it failed, something to do with
> "length of sprite image incorrect". So then I deleted the sprite, saved as
> EPS again, removed the fonts and imported again: and it looks identical,
> so I can't see where those rogue fonts might be.

I would not recommend editing and reimporting EPS unless you know 
exactly what you are doing. The reason I mentioned EPS was just that 
it is the most readable account of the fonts used in a document.

> Maybe I should just not worry about spurious fonts being in the document???

For PDF export it can be useful to trim down used fonts because all 
used fonts are embedded in the exported PDF.

Actually, if you find a font listed in the exported EPS file and you 
want to know what text is using it, simply search for the font name 
later in the file and it will appear just before the text that uses 
it, obviously, with a lot of technical EPS stuff around it, but the 
plain text will be there, in brackets, e.g., (hello world), usually 
followed by the command Tx. Inbetween the font name and the actual 
text you may find the name of the colour, e.g., (Black), so ignore 
that.

Martin
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