[AR] Re: Faster Space Transport? (was Re: Zubrin,
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- To: <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2019 23:39:30 -0400
I'll be sure to give that a read this weekend.
Thanks for the link.
Anthony J. Cesaroni
President/CEO
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
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Rand Simberg
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 11:12 PM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Re: Faster Space Transport? (was Re: Zubrin,
Apollo was successful in the sense that it achieved its goal of landing a man
on the moon and returning him safely to earth within this decade.
It was a disaster in the sense that it created a false narrative of how we
would open the solar system, which is why we have not been beyond LEO in over
forty years.
I wrote a long essay about this about three years ago:
https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/getting-over-apolloism
What did I get wrong?
On 2019-08-24 19:48, anthony@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
_Rand wrote;_
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_" In the case of Apollo, it happened too soon, which is how we got so
screwed up."_
How so? As I suggested, I believe the timing of the program is one of
main reasons it was successful and completed in the time that it was.
Given the social, political and economic conditions, do you feel that
it could have been completed the way it was or better in the 70s, 80s,
90s or today? For example, what are the enabling technologies that
would have evolved without the program and that would be required have
been better later than sooner? “Why do you feel we screwed it up”?
The other critical conditions cited were funding and political
motivation. “Why do you feel we screwed it up. If anything, we didn’t
maintain the system that manufacturing capabilities at a level that
would have allowed us to built a better version of the same thing
today. That counts a screw up IMO. The manned experimental laboratory
(MOL) was also developed in the same time period but I digress.
Anthony J. Cesaroni
President/CEO
Cesaroni Technology/Cesaroni Aerospace
http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(941) 360-3100 x101 Sarasota
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
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From: arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <arocket-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On
Behalf Of Rand Simberg
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 9:51 PM
To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AR] Re: Faster Space Transport? (was Re: Zubrin,
OK, great. Our primary disagreement is on how far off the future is.
I'm glad that you don't think that space transportation is somehow
magically, ultimately immune to fundamental economics. Because many in
this industry seem to, and are not unhappy about that. :-)
I just wish that the future had happened sooner. In the case of
Apollo, it happened too soon, which is how we got so screwed up.
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