Hallo Klaus On 06.08.2011, at 18:03, Klaus Karcher wrote: > Andreas Hebeisen wrote: >> Sadly, the problem didn't go away. The behavior of the modified profiles is >> the same. > > ... hmmm ... What are the L-values you measure in the black patch in the top > right corner of your prints (perceptual without BPC)? I read the values using 'spotread' from ArgyllCMS, OK? Sample of a very good print (ArgyllCMS profile, Lightroom, Perceptual): D50 Lab: 16.826835 0.838703 1.486442 Sample of an Aperture 3.1.3 print with ArgyllCMS profile: D50 Lab: 24.134904 0.224252 2.315157 > According to the density values you report the differences must be quite > dramatic. > > What happens when you use this profile > <http://digitalproof.info/argyll/2011_V6_test.icc.zip> > to print from Aperture and one of the other Applications (perceptual without > BPC in both cases)? What are the L-values of the black patch? Are there any > abnormalities in the /prints/? (please ignore any abnormalities in previews > or softproofs -- just look at the prints) Printed from Photoshop CS 5: The print looks OK, compared to another print made with an ArgyllCMS-profile, Photoshop etc. they're very, very close. Sample patch reads: D50 Lab: 18.765331 0.820211 1.448157 (Since this is a fresh print, the black patch isn't as dark as it could be. But this is OK. Within 24 to 48 hours it will become darker and will finally reach a value close to the print I listed first.) And finally the Aperture 3.1.3 Print: This is the ugliest print I've ever got from my machine. ;) There are just reds and yellows. But when I look at the LAB visualization in ColorSync, this seems to be what you've intended. Sample patch reads: D50 Lab: 47.894951 67.564971 36.821702 Now I'm anxious to hear your conclusions from this test. Cheers Andreas