Hi Martin, I agree 100% with the method. First fragen: have you tried the calculated calibration back on press? And if so, what were the results? Second fragen: where did you get "3rd deg. poly. Regression"? In Argyll? Where? MfG / Roger Breton > I thought I'd share a little session I had, using xicclu -kv, icclu > and Gnumeric. > > Calibration print run on sheet-fed offset press using linear printing > plates. > Within tolerances, match as much as possible to standard ISO 12647-2 > PT 1&2 (i.e. prim./sec. colors, dot gain) > When dry create device profile from IT8.7/4 chart. > > Then: > > Target Lab at 25, 50 and 75 K: > icclu -ff -ia -s100 ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc > 0 0 0 25 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 25.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 79.441962 > -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] > 0 0 0 50 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 50.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 61.806456 > -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] > 0 0 0 75 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 75.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 41.105493 > -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] > > Target CMY from target Lab: > xicclu -kv -ia -fif ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc > 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 > 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.221580 0.155773 > 0.166181 0.000000 [CMYK] > 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 > 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.454712 0.353944 > 0.356616 0.000000 [CMYK] > 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 > 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.720534 0.621456 > 0.619903 0.000000 [CMYK] > > Device CMY needed to meet target Lab: > xicclu -kv -ia -fif Device_Profile.icc > 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 > 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.183225 0.121471 > 0.145808 0.000000 [CMYK] > 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 > 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.401252 0.306147 > 0.317546 0.000000 [CMYK] > 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 > 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.660704 0.547960 > 0.560626 0.000000 [CMYK] > > Device K needed to meet L* of target K (iterative user input): > icclu -ff -ia -s100 Device_Profile.icc > 0 0 0 21 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 21.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 79.440394 > 0.905778 -3.496105 [Lab] > 0 0 0 43.5 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 43.500000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 61.842308 > 0.630904 -2.312832 [Lab] > 0 0 0 66.8 > 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 66.800000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 41.070386 > 0.519650 -0.627445 [Lab] > > CtP input/output needed: > Cyan > 0 0 > 22,158 18,3225 > 45,4712 40,1252 > 72,0534 66,0704 > 100 100 > > Magenta > 0 0 > 15,5773 12,1471 > 35,3944 30,6147 > 62,1456 54,796 > 100 100 > > Yellow > 0 0 > 16,6181 14,5808 > 35,6616 31,7546 > 61,9903 56,0626 > 100 100 > > Black > 0 0 > 25 21 > 50 43,5 > 75 66,8 > 100 100 > > Using data above and 3rd deg. poly. regression to calc full range of > smoothed CtP input/output tone values: > % C M Y K > 0 0 0 0 0 > 5 4,2 4,1 4,5 4,6 > 10 8,4 8,3 9,0 9,0 > 15 12,6 12,4 13,4 13,2 > 20 16,9 16,6 17,8 17,4 > 25 21,2 20,8 22,1 21,6 > 30 25,6 25,1 26,5 25,7 > 35 30,0 29,5 30,9 29,8 > 40 34,5 33,9 35,4 34,0 > 45 39,1 38,5 39,9 38,3 > 50 43,9 43,2 44,6 42,6 > 55 48,7 48,0 49,3 47,2 > 60 53,7 52,9 54,2 51,9 > 65 58,9 58,1 59,2 56,8 > 70 64,2 63,4 64,4 61,9 > 75 69,6 68,9 69,7 67,4 > 80 75,3 74,6 75,3 73,1 > 85 81,1 80,6 81,1 79,2 > 90 87,2 86,8 87,1 85,7 > 95 93,4 93,2 93,4 92,5 > 100 100 100 100 100 > > Any thoughts about the process? > > Martin Weberg