List, I thought I'd share a little session I had, using xicclu -kv, icclu and Gnumeric. Calibration print run on sheet-fed offset press using linear printing plates. Within tolerances, match as much as possible to standard ISO 12647-2 PT 1&2 (i.e. prim./sec. colors, dot gain) When dry create device profile from IT8.7/4 chart. Then: Target Lab at 25, 50 and 75 K: icclu -ff -ia -s100 ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc 0 0 0 25 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 25.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] 0 0 0 50 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 50.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] 0 0 0 75 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 75.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] Target CMY from target Lab: xicclu -kv -ia -fif ISOcoated_v2_eci.icc 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.221580 0.155773 0.166181 0.000000 [CMYK] 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.454712 0.353944 0.356616 0.000000 [CMYK] 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.720534 0.621456 0.619903 0.000000 [CMYK] Device CMY needed to meet target Lab: xicclu -kv -ia -fif Device_Profile.icc 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 79.441962 -0.140086 -1.997727 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.183225 0.121471 0.145808 0.000000 [CMYK] 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 61.806456 -0.147246 -1.553618 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.401252 0.306147 0.317546 0.000000 [CMYK] 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 41.105493 -0.065598 -0.707456 [Lab] -> Lut -> 0.660704 0.547960 0.560626 0.000000 [CMYK] Device K needed to meet L* of target K (iterative user input): icclu -ff -ia -s100 Device_Profile.icc 0 0 0 21 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 21.000000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 79.440394 0.905778 -3.496105 [Lab] 0 0 0 43.5 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 43.500000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 61.842308 0.630904 -2.312832 [Lab] 0 0 0 66.8 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 66.800000 [CMYK] -> Lut -> 41.070386 0.519650 -0.627445 [Lab] CtP input/output needed: Cyan 0 0 22,158 18,3225 45,4712 40,1252 72,0534 66,0704 100 100 Magenta 0 0 15,5773 12,1471 35,3944 30,6147 62,1456 54,796 100 100 Yellow 0 0 16,6181 14,5808 35,6616 31,7546 61,9903 56,0626 100 100 Black 0 0 25 21 50 43,5 75 66,8 100 100 Using data above and 3rd deg. poly. regression to calc full range of smoothed CtP input/output tone values: % C M Y K 0 0 0 0 0 5 4,2 4,1 4,5 4,6 10 8,4 8,3 9,0 9,0 15 12,6 12,4 13,4 13,2 20 16,9 16,6 17,8 17,4 25 21,2 20,8 22,1 21,6 30 25,6 25,1 26,5 25,7 35 30,0 29,5 30,9 29,8 40 34,5 33,9 35,4 34,0 45 39,1 38,5 39,9 38,3 50 43,9 43,2 44,6 42,6 55 48,7 48,0 49,3 47,2 60 53,7 52,9 54,2 51,9 65 58,9 58,1 59,2 56,8 70 64,2 63,4 64,4 61,9 75 69,6 68,9 69,7 67,4 80 75,3 74,6 75,3 73,1 85 81,1 80,6 81,1 79,2 90 87,2 86,8 87,1 85,7 95 93,4 93,2 93,4 92,5 100 100 100 100 100 Any thoughts about the process? Martin Weberg