This message was posted by joe lewis on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/834.html#000004 Not sure if i am explaining this correctly? After I hoop my hat which is a cheap daystone hat I place the hat on my machine. I do a trace design and when it rotates left and brings the cap farther into the machine it pulls the cap off the machine even after only an inch of movement. Is the overall depth of the hat to shallow or is it because of the quality of the hat? I am dumbfounded with these hats. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================