This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/834.html#000003 The solution - the only practical solution - is to decrease the height of the design. My max is 2.5" and less if I can. Once I did that, most of the problems disapired. Now I rarely loose a hat. Juli in Kona =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================