This message was posted by Five Point Emb on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/6/174.html#000010 I pulled out my Dakota catalogs and found the first year that the Madeira chart was posted was 2004. Dakota says it prefers rayon so the numbers must be for rayon thread. Are the same numbers used for poly thread? I don't know. In the Dakota Sizer and AlphaSizer it is "Madeira (D)". If you own the program you can go to www.dakotacollectibles.com (http://www.dakotacollectibles.com) and download the color chart. Darlene Duseberg Perrysburg, OH =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================