David, When I have something like this happen, it is because I have the retrace button on for the running stitch, and have forgotten to turn it off. Susan Davidson Sewfly Embroidery Vacaville, CA -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:46 AM To: dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx; amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Start for Fill and Underlay Different [Sorry if this is a duplicate, I am having a problem with my e-mail.] I have a small design where there is a fill then a run stitch to the next fill and the fill start point is right on top of the end of the run stitch. However, DesignShop Pro+ (v. 608.522) does not want to start the underlay for the fill at the start point and insert a trim instead. Is there anyway to control for this in DesignShop? I realise that I can turn off the underlay and do it maually myself, but I was hoping that there is a way to get the software to do it automatically. Thanks. David Sklar Ballyhoo! Arlington, VA