What they showed us in training was to use your largest hoop and piece of material (poplin or duck) for your patch 'base'....set up your design with applique commands... then just repeat the 'outline' over and over on the largest material hoop you can. Take this off, cut out each patch-and then rehoop either the larger hoopl or small hoop if you only want to do one at a time with a thin backing sheet only.. As you sew the 'applique' outline-use a little adhesive and stick one of your 'patches' down on the outline, then let it run the rest of the 'applique' setup. Your design can start or finish off with the full satin edge trim and overlap the patch cut edge to hide it. Then after you do them all on this hoop, just tear off the backing and you have patches. Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================