[amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
- From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:48:23 -0400
I'd be glad to run off a test for you with my iron-on material...
if you have the nylon flags already.
Sounds like the customer is trying to squeeze change out of a penny...
try and make them realize what a full set of flags 'each year' is
worth for
2-3, 4 years...and if he spends the right amount now, he will have
flags good
for 4-5 years easily. So what he pays now, divided by 4 or 5, is a
fraction of
what he thinks it is...works for me!
I just did 52 'golf ball' coroplast signs with holders, tees, etc.
for the local
hospital fund raiser-at $37.50 each...and then another 20 some-odd for
the chamber of commerce. All done so they can be reused for same
sponsors
next year or have the lettering peeled off and the sign used for new
sponsor...
and then found out the chamber was giving the signs 'back' to the
sponsors-
she thought THEY owned the signs! I told her NO...this was a special
package
so NEXT year she wouldn't have to buy them all over again! Duh....
Roland
Sunrise Graphics
116 Main St
Claremont, NH 03743
603-543-1324
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On Jul 18, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Image Embroidery wrote:
> LOL!!!
> Roland,
>
> You are always good for a laugh.
> I kind of figured I couldn't use the sign vinyl, but I had to at
> least ask.
> The flags are going to used outdoors for one weekend on the golf
> course
> during the Member-Guest. And then put away until next year.
> I'll let you know how this plays out.
>
> LuAnn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:00 AM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
>
>
>> No, sign vinyl will NOT work.
>> Been there, tried that.
>> It 'may' stick long enough to peel off the transfer tape, but
>> it will not hold up at all outdoors if the nylon is not 'corona'
>> treated.
>> Only way to do it is with POLY flag, smooth finish-not textured.
>> If your customer is being that cheap, give him a magic marker and
>> tell him to have fun!
>> If you want to send me the details (size of flag, logo, etc.) I'll
>> give you
>> my 'estimated' retail price I'd charge here and you can have a
>> guideline
>> to either make the customer happy or scare him off with a heart
>> attack...
>> keep in mind that a warning flag should pop up the instant any
>> customer
>> comes in with a job and says they do not have the money for 'special'
>> materials
>> but wants a 'special job' done...
>> some jobs you just have to say 'no' to, or refer them to a competitor
>> that you
>> are not on good terms with....LOL...so THEY can make him unhappy!
>> Roland
>>
>>
>> Sunrise Graphics
>> 116 Main St
>> Claremont, NH 03743
>> 603-543-1324
>> NO PC or WORD files accepted!
>> Anything with .doc, .wvm, .txt, is automatically deleted. We have NO
>> ability to view, read, or process any files from any Windows or PC
>> based programs.
>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>> but not for graphics.
>> Photoshop (v.6) for images to be digitally printed. ANY sign and
>> logo work must be supplied in Vector lineart (macromedia Freehand)
>> without any compression or .eps.
>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Image Embroidery wrote:
>>
>>> I know all about the specialty materials for nylon. My customer
>>> does not
>>> want to spend the kind of money needed to purchase the heat applied
>>> vinyl.
>>> My question IS....Can sign vinyl be used on nylon?
>>> Sign vinyl is not applied with heat.
>>>
>>> Thanks...
>>> LuAnn
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
>>>
>>>
>>>> Luckily I can answer this one from experience!
>>>> I've heatsealed on the nylon and poly flag materials several times.
>>>> Specialty Films and Stahls both have iron on vinyl made for
>>>> 'nylon' (jackets, etc.)
>>>> that works great. I think Stahls is the GorillaGrip II or something
>>>> like that. I have also
>>>> used my regular stock Specialty Film colors and it stayed put
>>>> through
>>>> the washing machine-
>>>> I was really testing it for outdoor durability!
>>>> Factory tech was surprised when I told him how we abused it to test
>>>> it...
>>>> What you DO have to be careful of is overheating...the nylon flag
>>>> material will 'shrink' and
>>>> cause ripples if you overheat for too long. Use a teflon sheet over
>>>> your decal for a quick
>>>> 5 second or so press-then peel off the backing, put the teflon down
>>>> again, and go for 15 seconds.
>>>> I use 375 degrees and moderate pressure and a 30+ year old cast
>>>> iron
>>>> press!
>>>> Just got a new automotic Mighty Press so I have to test that and
>>>> get
>>>> the settings.
>>>> But I recommend testing one flag, apply the vinyl, then run it
>>>> through your washing machine. If
>>>> it will stick through that, outdoor weather won't bother it.
>>>> Roland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sunrise Graphics
>>>> 116 Main St
>>>> Claremont, NH 03743
>>>> 603-543-1324
>>>> NO PC or WORD files accepted!
>>>> Anything with .doc, .wvm, .txt, is automatically deleted. We
>>>> have NO
>>>> ability to view, read, or process any files from any Windows or PC
>>>> based programs.
>>>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>>>> but not for graphics.
>>>> Photoshop (v.6) for images to be digitally printed. ANY sign and
>>>> logo work must be supplied in Vector lineart (macromedia Freehand)
>>>> without any compression or .eps.
>>>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:13 AM, <dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about sign vinyls, however, when decorating garments
>>>>> with vinyl (thermal films) and a heat press the basic films are
>>>>> not
>>>>> supposed to be used with nylon. There are films made specifically
>>>>> for nylon. Check with Imprintables Warehouse or Stahls.
>>>>>
>>>>> David Sklar
>>>>> Ballyhoo!
>>>>> Arlington, VA
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Image Embroidery <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Date: 2007/07/18 Wed AM 08:20:42 CDT
>>>>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Nylon flag question-not embroidery
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning all!
>>>>>> I have 100% Nylon flags that I need to decorate for a golf
>>>>>> course.
>>>>>> My original plan was to do these flags with heat transfer
>>>>>> vinyl...that is when I was under the impression that the flags
>>>>>> were polyester.
>>>>>> Well, the customer does not wish to invest the kind of money that
>>>>>> is needed to purchase the products to do this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, my question is....can I apply sign vinyl to these nylon
>>>>>> flags?
>>>>>> Does anyone have any experience with working with sign vinyl and
>>>>>> nylon?
>>>>>> Neither the vinyl supplier nor the flag manufacturer knew if this
>>>>>> would work.
>>>>>> Trial and error was the response I got.
>>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LuAnn @ Image Embroidery
>>>>>> Because Your "Image" Matters
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