[amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
- From: "Image Embroidery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:14:46 -0400
LOL!!!
Roland,
You are always good for a laugh.
I kind of figured I couldn't use the sign vinyl, but I had to at least ask.
The flags are going to used outdoors for one weekend on the golf course
during the Member-Guest. And then put away until next year.
I'll let you know how this plays out.
LuAnn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
> No, sign vinyl will NOT work.
> Been there, tried that.
> It 'may' stick long enough to peel off the transfer tape, but
> it will not hold up at all outdoors if the nylon is not 'corona'
> treated.
> Only way to do it is with POLY flag, smooth finish-not textured.
> If your customer is being that cheap, give him a magic marker and
> tell him to have fun!
> If you want to send me the details (size of flag, logo, etc.) I'll
> give you
> my 'estimated' retail price I'd charge here and you can have a guideline
> to either make the customer happy or scare him off with a heart
> attack...
> keep in mind that a warning flag should pop up the instant any customer
> comes in with a job and says they do not have the money for 'special'
> materials
> but wants a 'special job' done...
> some jobs you just have to say 'no' to, or refer them to a competitor
> that you
> are not on good terms with....LOL...so THEY can make him unhappy!
> Roland
>
>
> Sunrise Graphics
> 116 Main St
> Claremont, NH 03743
> 603-543-1324
> NO PC or WORD files accepted!
> Anything with .doc, .wvm, .txt, is automatically deleted. We have NO
> ability to view, read, or process any files from any Windows or PC
> based programs.
> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
> but not for graphics.
> Photoshop (v.6) for images to be digitally printed. ANY sign and
> logo work must be supplied in Vector lineart (macromedia Freehand)
> without any compression or .eps.
> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Image Embroidery wrote:
>
>> I know all about the specialty materials for nylon. My customer
>> does not
>> want to spend the kind of money needed to purchase the heat applied
>> vinyl.
>> My question IS....Can sign vinyl be used on nylon?
>> Sign vinyl is not applied with heat.
>>
>> Thanks...
>> LuAnn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:25 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Nylon flag question-not embroidery
>>
>>
>>> Luckily I can answer this one from experience!
>>> I've heatsealed on the nylon and poly flag materials several times.
>>> Specialty Films and Stahls both have iron on vinyl made for
>>> 'nylon' (jackets, etc.)
>>> that works great. I think Stahls is the GorillaGrip II or something
>>> like that. I have also
>>> used my regular stock Specialty Film colors and it stayed put through
>>> the washing machine-
>>> I was really testing it for outdoor durability!
>>> Factory tech was surprised when I told him how we abused it to test
>>> it...
>>> What you DO have to be careful of is overheating...the nylon flag
>>> material will 'shrink' and
>>> cause ripples if you overheat for too long. Use a teflon sheet over
>>> your decal for a quick
>>> 5 second or so press-then peel off the backing, put the teflon down
>>> again, and go for 15 seconds.
>>> I use 375 degrees and moderate pressure and a 30+ year old cast iron
>>> press!
>>> Just got a new automotic Mighty Press so I have to test that and get
>>> the settings.
>>> But I recommend testing one flag, apply the vinyl, then run it
>>> through your washing machine. If
>>> it will stick through that, outdoor weather won't bother it.
>>> Roland
>>>
>>>
>>> Sunrise Graphics
>>> 116 Main St
>>> Claremont, NH 03743
>>> 603-543-1324
>>> NO PC or WORD files accepted!
>>> Anything with .doc, .wvm, .txt, is automatically deleted. We have NO
>>> ability to view, read, or process any files from any Windows or PC
>>> based programs.
>>> Preferred method of files is PDF for invoices, page documents, etc.
>>> but not for graphics.
>>> Photoshop (v.6) for images to be digitally printed. ANY sign and
>>> logo work must be supplied in Vector lineart (macromedia Freehand)
>>> without any compression or .eps.
>>> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 10:13 AM, <dsklar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know about sign vinyls, however, when decorating garments
>>>> with vinyl (thermal films) and a heat press the basic films are not
>>>> supposed to be used with nylon. There are films made specifically
>>>> for nylon. Check with Imprintables Warehouse or Stahls.
>>>>
>>>> David Sklar
>>>> Ballyhoo!
>>>> Arlington, VA
>>>>
>>>>> From: Image Embroidery <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Date: 2007/07/18 Wed AM 08:20:42 CDT
>>>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [amayausers] Nylon flag question-not embroidery
>>>>
>>>>> Good morning all!
>>>>> I have 100% Nylon flags that I need to decorate for a golf course.
>>>>> My original plan was to do these flags with heat transfer
>>>>> vinyl...that is when I was under the impression that the flags
>>>>> were polyester.
>>>>> Well, the customer does not wish to invest the kind of money that
>>>>> is needed to purchase the products to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, my question is....can I apply sign vinyl to these nylon flags?
>>>>> Does anyone have any experience with working with sign vinyl and
>>>>> nylon?
>>>>> Neither the vinyl supplier nor the flag manufacturer knew if this
>>>>> would work.
>>>>> Trial and error was the response I got.
>>>>> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> LuAnn @ Image Embroidery
>>>>> Because Your "Image" Matters
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