Mary, probably too late for you...but this is what I have done...in Design Shop, open up the design and zoom in on the last stitch area of that letter...and using the 'manual' stitch, start on the last point and do a tiny zig zag- maybe 4-5 stitches as close as you dare...as a 'manual' tie off. (You have to make sure there is no 'color change' or 'trim' between your last thread and this 'added' tie down) Using the 3-D view you can make sure your stitches follow the pattern of the letter so they will 'hide' in the threads and not go perpendicular across them. I learned this by 'deconstructing' pre digitized Dakota designs when I was changing them and saw the same problem. All the Dakota designs 'end' this way-a couple extra 'tie down' stitches. Works for me, and didn't change anything in the design. Roland From: marywdemb@xxxxxxx Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:41:47 -0400 To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Hi List, First, thank you to all who responded to my request for pms colors, especially Herb. I'm having a problem with a design and need some advice. The digitized design was provided by the customer, but they asked me to delete a word, which stitches last. I was able to do that, but now the thread pulls out at the last letter stitched. I am using EDSIV, highlighted the last element, went into Lock/Trim and checked the tie off box. I stitched the design again and it is still pulling out at the end. Any advice? June Casole Marywood Embroidery Marywdemb@xxxxxxx