Sharon is correct. With every stitch, a small knot is formed.. for any of you who have had to remove stitching you know all too well about this. The more stitches there are the more knots are formed. Shorter stitches equate to many more stitches in the same amount of space as opposed to longer stitches. And since physics tells that two things cannot occupy the same space at the same time, when thread is pushed into the fabric, the fabric fibers are pushed aside packing them against one another. So a ton of stitches in a small area will render it very hard and inflexible. So is the term "Bulletproof". Hence, with longer stitch lengths, the majority of the stitch will "lay" on top of the fabric and not be pulled into the fabric like short stitch lengths. However too long of stitches will give a loopy appearance. "We must find the balance people!" Who said that? Anyway, longer stitches will give a softer and more flexible feel to the design. Ed Ed & Maralien Orantes E.M. Broidery 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200 New Orleans, La. 70056 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643) -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Rod or Sharon Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:29 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Densities???? Hi Herb, Rod is gone but I will chime in with my 2 cents worth. I know Rod would first look at the length of the stitches if he felt it wasn't covering to his expectations. The longer stitches cover better. Also, what type of fabric Pique or woven? Is there any underlay? How large is the design? I want my embroidery to cover but without becoming stiff. I want the feel of the fabric to remain as soft as possible--I think that is when Rod uses larger stitches to accomplish that (wish I digitized so I could explain it better for you--I'm sure someone else can--and I'm sure Rod will add his 2 cents when he returns). I don't want my fabric showing through but don't want it to bubble or pull from too much build up to accomplish the coverage. Hummm---I'm not doing very well so I will let some of the digitizers chime in. I will also be interested in replys. Hope all is well up your way--tell your wife hello! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:34 AM Subject: [amayausers] Densities???? >I am going to admit to being dense. Been doing this for 2 years and one of >my biggest issues is density. I would suppose a trained eye could look at a >sewout and know if the density is correct. Also realize there is the >experience factor. If it does not cover then obviously it needs more, but >when is enough really enough. What should one look for? The mechanical side >of my brain wants me to get each stitch to lay perfectly next to the >previous. Is there a reasonable tolerance or am I looking to hard for >perfection. Any thoughts appreciated. > Herb > Royal Embroidery >