but i agree with you though. Anthony D,. Tom I am empowered by attention and my gift is desire or epiphany. It is better to have crossed the line and faced the consequences, than to remain standing on that same line for the next mellineum. -----Original Message----- From: accessible-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:accessible-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Russell Solowoniuk Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:15 PM To: accessible-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [accessible-android] Re: android phones with talkback Hi Kate, I have used an iPhone since VO first came out on the iPhone 3GS. I've never used an Android phone, but, I did purchase a Nexus 7 running Android this past June, and, if the Android phone is anything like the Nexus 7, I'd say you are much better off with an iPhone. While TalkBack is okay, it is very frustrating to use, in my opinion. On the iPhone, a 2 finger swipe down in an email message or document will have VO read the entire message. In Android, , you need to make a swipe up and to the right, touch the screen and explore in a circular motion and choose the amount of text a swipe will read. It seems like a lot of steps compared to IOS. I'll admit that I'm not as familiar with Android, so some of my frustration may be due to lack of knowledge, but, I recall when I first got my iPhone, I was frustrated for a couple of days, but the environment was intuitive and easy to learn. This isn't the case in Android, for me anyway. I know my views may not be popular on this list, but I'm just answering your question as honest as I can having used both Android and IOS. Good luck whatever you decide. Russell On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:32 PM, kate andrekson <iloveios7@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi list, > My name is Kate Andrekson. I am a new member. I am completely blind. > I curently have an iphone 5 with voiceover, and I'm trying to decide what phone should get next. So I'm wondering which android phone are compatible with TalkBack. > I also want to know your opinions. Is TalkBack a good screen reader for someone with no vision at all? I want to try and put my money in the right place this time. I'm really starting to think that buying my iphone 5 was a big mistake. > Thanks > Kate > To contact the list admin with questions, issues, or request concerning the list please email: beto.arreola22@xxxxxxxxx or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter on betoa221 > > To subscribe to the list send a message with subscribe on the subject line to: accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe from the list please send message with unsubscribe in the subject line to accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To make changes to your list subscription please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-android To contact the list admin with questions, issues, or request concerning the list please email: beto.arreola22@xxxxxxxxx or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter on betoa221 To subscribe to the list send a message with subscribe on the subject line to: accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from the list please send message with unsubscribe in the subject line to accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To make changes to your list subscription please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-android To contact the list admin with questions, issues, or request concerning the list please email: beto.arreola22@xxxxxxxxx or on skype at betoa221, or on twitter on betoa221 To subscribe to the list send a message with subscribe on the subject line to: accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from the list please send message with unsubscribe in the subject line to accessible-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To make changes to your list subscription please visit: //www.freelists.org/list/accessible-android