[access-uk] Re: smart phones and touch screens
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:48:10 +0100
Hi Jackie,
Uust to give this some perspective, two years ago, I got my Galaxy Nexus
from a local Phoes4U shop in Stevenage. I rang to ask if they'd got one. I
said I was blind and would like to have a look at it. The first thing he
said to me was "Shall I turn Tlakback on for you?" So it isn't only Apple.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jackie Brown
Sent: 15 September 2013 11:53
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: smart phones and touch screens
Hi Brian
I agree with everything you say about Apple and their staff. It is nice to
walk into a shop and actually find people who know what a screenreader is.
If you just ask them if they could turn on VoiceOver, they do it, then
venture into asking you what settings you would prefer, and it really does
become a very good experience.
I am not saying Apple is the be-all and end-all, but I too am glad I stuck
with it in the end, and wouldn't go back even if I could.
As for Android, well I can't quite get my head around certain things, but I
suppose it is horses for courses. The other difficulty is that there isn't
a dedicated place to go and try out these devices like there is in an Apple
Store. Most phone shops you visit have staff who don't know a thing about
screenreaders, so it makes the experience rather frustrating when you say
want to try out a Galaxy or something, and you don't have a staff member who
is particularly clued in. So you could end up purchasing an Android device
thinking you will conquer it, or that it must be the same as an Apple
device, and it doesn't pan out that way.
Just my thoughts.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Twitter: @thebrownsplace
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Brian Williams
Sent: 13 September 2013 22:04
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: smart phones and touch screens
Hi Jim
I tried the android phones for about six months. My wife did also. We both
found them clumsy and disorganised and very difficult to get to know.
Although I must admit I was very anti Apple for a long time I moved on to an
Apple iPhone five immediately. I have never looked back, neither has my
wife. We used Nokia phones for years and years, the ones with buttons. It
was a new idea to learn how to use a different system. But as I say we have
never looked back and would never return to a button type phone again. It
takes a few weeks or possibly months to get to know some of the functions
but once you know them they are very easy and logical to use. Of course the
greatest benefit is no extra cost for screen readers. Everything is built
in. The experience we have had with Apple staff is second to none. They are
very knowledgeable about their products, and also very patient and don't
assume you know anything about the products. They don't mind how many times
you go over things. The
y make sure the product you are buying is suitable for your needs. If only
they sold other products. Good luck
Brian
On 13 Sep 2013, at 09:33 PM, Jim McAuslan <jim.mcauslan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi Ian,
That's greatly reassuring. The general consensus of opinion is that the
IPhone is the best route to go.
As I said to Jackie earlier, I'm also looking forward to getting my very
first Apple laptop and that'll be another learning curve, smile.
Cheers.
Jim Mc
On 13/09/2013 15:53, Ian Macrae wrote:
> Jim, the first touch screen I tried was a Nokia phone running Talks and it
was hopeless as far as I was concerned. By that time my sighted wife had
started using an iPhone and I gave that a go and took to it like a duck to
water. For me the way in which the user interacts with the iPhone screen
has always felt highly intuitive. Once you get used to the distance between
the different icons, and know that nothing is going to happen until you make
it happen it just seems to fall into place. It is also worth going to an
Apple store to have a play and asking for assistance from someone who is
familiar with Voiceover. there's always at least one member of staff who
is.
> On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:47, Jim McAuslan wrote:
>
>> Hello Jackie,
>>
>> Maybe I should try an IPhone next. I'm looking to get my first Apple
>> Mac laptop soon so maybe It'll be logical to try an IPhone.
>> Jim Mc
>> On 13/09/2013 15:11, Jackie Brown wrote:
>>> Hi Jim
>>>
>>> When I first got an iPhone 4, I felt exactly the same as you do now. I
>>> found it hard to answer and end a call, and generally dreaded going near
it.
>>> But I decided that if I could use my iPod Touch successfully, then I
would
>>> vow to apply the same logic to an iPhone, and embrace it once and for
all.
>>> So I did that at the start of this year, and am glad I did now.
>>>
>>> I know Steve will shout me down here, but I find the iOS experience
slightly
>>> easier than Android. That isn't to say I don't like the latter, I
>>> definitely do. But I find it easier to skip round my iOS devices than I
do
>>> my Nexus 7 tablet. I can't explain why, I just find it more of a
hassle.
>>> But Mr Nutt will say it is all down to training and getting to know your
>>> device well, and I accept that, (smile). I guess you just feel more
>>> comfortable with some things better than others.
>>>
>>> Please don't feel despondent Jim, I think that, if we are being honest,
we
>>> have all felt the same way at one point or another.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Jackie Brown
>>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> On Behalf Of Jim McAuslan
>>> Sent: 13 September 2013 14:32
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] smart phones and touch screens
>>>
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> Earlier today I wandered into my local O2 shop to investigagte how to
>>> use a smart phone with a touch screen. I tried out both the Samsung
>>> Galaxy S3 and the S4 and had a very difficult and disempowering
experience.
>>> I just couldn't seem to get the "double tap" thing going and both phones
>>> kept on bombarding me with loads of information that I founhd
>>> distracting. I came away feeling slightly depressed and disempowered.
>>> Am I alone when it comes to touch phones with speech?
>> --
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