Hi Ian Has our Windows laptop is about to die we are thinking of moving to a Mac. We are just waiting for my wife to have her cataracts done in October and then see which screen would be best for her. I am totally blind so screens don't matter to me. I have been reading a lot about the use of a Mac in comparison to Windows and am looking forward to the transition. Brian On 13 Sep 2013, at 09:55 PM, Ian Macrae <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Jim, again the move to Mac from PC is a big one so if you need assistance there are more of us than there used to be ready to give it. On 13 Sep 2013, at 21:33, Jim McAuslan wrote: > Hi Ian, > > That's greatly reassuring. The general consensus of opinion is that the > IPhone is the best route to go. > As I said to Jackie earlier, I'm also looking forward to getting my very > first Apple laptop and that'll be another learning curve, smile. > Cheers. > Jim Mc > On 13/09/2013 15:53, Ian Macrae wrote: >> Jim, the first touch screen I tried was a Nokia phone running Talks and it >> was hopeless as far as I was concerned. By that time my sighted wife had >> started using an iPhone and I gave that a go and took to it like a duck to >> water. For me the way in which the user interacts with the iPhone screen >> has always felt highly intuitive. Once you get used to the distance between >> the different icons, and know that nothing is going to happen until you make >> it happen it just seems to fall into place. It is also worth going to an >> Apple store to have a play and asking for assistance from someone who is >> familiar with Voiceover. there's always at least one member of staff who is. >> On 13 Sep 2013, at 15:47, Jim McAuslan wrote: >> >>> Hello Jackie, >>> >>> Maybe I should try an IPhone next. I'm looking to get my first Apple >>> Mac laptop soon so maybe It'll be logical to try an IPhone. >>> Jim Mc >>> On 13/09/2013 15:11, Jackie Brown wrote: >>>> Hi Jim >>>> >>>> When I first got an iPhone 4, I felt exactly the same as you do now. I >>>> found it hard to answer and end a call, and generally dreaded going near >>>> it. >>>> But I decided that if I could use my iPod Touch successfully, then I would >>>> vow to apply the same logic to an iPhone, and embrace it once and for all. >>>> So I did that at the start of this year, and am glad I did now. >>>> >>>> I know Steve will shout me down here, but I find the iOS experience >>>> slightly >>>> easier than Android. That isn't to say I don't like the latter, I >>>> definitely do. But I find it easier to skip round my iOS devices than I do >>>> my Nexus 7 tablet. I can't explain why, I just find it more of a hassle. >>>> But Mr Nutt will say it is all down to training and getting to know your >>>> device well, and I accept that, (smile). I guess you just feel more >>>> comfortable with some things better than others. >>>> >>>> Please don't feel despondent Jim, I think that, if we are being honest, we >>>> have all felt the same way at one point or another. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Jackie Brown >>>> Twitter: @thebrownsplace >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>> On Behalf Of Jim McAuslan >>>> Sent: 13 September 2013 14:32 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] smart phones and touch screens >>>> >>>> Hi List, >>>> >>>> Earlier today I wandered into my local O2 shop to investigagte how to >>>> use a smart phone with a touch screen. I tried out both the Samsung >>>> Galaxy S3 and the S4 and had a very difficult and disempowering experience. >>>> I just couldn't seem to get the "double tap" thing going and both phones >>>> kept on bombarding me with loads of information that I founhd >>>> distracting. I came away feeling slightly depressed and disempowered. >>>> Am I alone when it comes to touch phones with speech? >>> -- >>> Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn >>> Minds are like parachutes! >>> They work best when open >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> >> >> ___________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by iomartcloud. >> http://www.iomartcloud.com/ > > -- > Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn > Minds are like parachutes! > They work best when open > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq