[access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 07:22:38 -0000
Well, I didn't find a straightforward list of its features, as I used to on
Nokia, so gave up.
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
> Hi Carol - for my research on the N91, I looked at what Nokia said about
> it
> on their website, then at the providers websites for any more info I could
> get, as well as phone retailers like Expansys. If you Google it, you
> should
> get quite a bit, and the manual is on the blindsea website too.
> -
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:22 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Well, I'm not thinking of going for an N91 right now as I need that new
> router first . . . but I have heard of people going to the phone shop to
> get
> software installed.
>
> I was looking for a full description of the N91, with its list of bells
> and
> whistles but couldn't seem to find it.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:25 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
>> Hi Carol,
>>
>> Anyone can send us a phone with a tenner, if they own Talks, and we will
>> install it for them. We do offer that much, and I strongly advise you
>> take
>> it up, if you don't have sighted people around for a while. Even if you
>> don't own Talks, we will install it and give you the 30 day demo for a
>> tenner, then if you want to buy it, we just give you the unlock code on
>> payment. We do what we can to support you, but we can't cover every
>> situation where you don't have sighted help, particularly as some people
>> just walk into a phone shop and buy a Talks compatible phone. By the
>> way,
>> have you ever thought of asking the phone shop to help you install Talks?
>> I
>> have heard of people who have had it installed successfully by the phone
>> shop, even though they bought it from us. But again, we will install if
>> you
>> are stuck.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Carol Pearson
>> Sent: 23 December 2006 16:38
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>> OK, point taken, but perhaps we still ought to be bringing more pressure
>> on
>> the phone companies to install software for us before sending out phones
>> etc., because some of us just don't have enough support to manage that
>> sort
>> of thing. I don't think I accept entirely either that Nokia can do
>> nothing
>> more, because they too could have a system where software could be
>> installed
>> before sending to a blind person, and Nuance perhaps could carry some
>> kind
>> of information on their site about the different way phones install so
>> hence
>> the need for sufficient support before purchase.
>>
>> Anyway, just my thoughts!
>>
>> --
>> Carol
>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:24 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>>
>>> Hi Carol,
>>>
>>> The problem here is that the keystrokes vary from phone to phone, from
>>> firmware to firmware, and even from operator to operator. For example,
>>> there is one setting on the phone, called Software or Software
>>> Installations. If this is set to Signed Only, then your Eloquence won't
>>> install. If this is set to on, then it will. But this is on only some
>>> versions of the phones. For example, I know someone who has an N91 on
>>> Vodafone, which has the software set to signed only, so you absolutely =
>>> need
>>> sighted help to turn it on. You can't write this up, because it is in a
>>> different position on the menus, according to different operators. =
>>> There is
>>> nothing that either Nokia or Nuance can do about the way operators =
>>> configure
>>> their phones by default. So unacceptable as it is, as Peter quite =
>>> rightly
>>> said, we will have to live with it for the moment. Part of it is =
>>> Nokia's
>>> fault, but not when they change phone default settings.
>>>
>>> One thing I will say is that you absolutely must have the time and date
>>> correct before you install, otherwise the certification won't work.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> --
>>> Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
>>> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277
>>> International: +44(0)1438 742286,=20
>>> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589
>>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,=20
>>> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
>>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk =20
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>> =
>>> Of
>>> Carol Pearson
>>> Sent: 22 December 2006 10:35
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>> Barry,
>>>
>>> You have my deep sympathy here. I really do think key strokes should be
>>> available. It's just not that easy to get ready-made help at the drop =
>>> of a
>>> whatever! <Smile>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carol
>>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:15 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree Peter. It is very frustrating.
>>>>
>>>> I've subscribed to the talks list now as well and generated about 30=20
>>>> emails
>>>> on this.
>>>>
>>>> People have either got sighted help or it's been fluked it seems and I
>>>> =
>>>
>>>> can't
>>>> get any word on any documentation available.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not asking to be hand held I'll read anything that'll get me up =
>>> and
>>>> running.
>>>>
>>>> I've been asking all over the place.
>>>>
>>>> Alot of people seem to be sus cause I bought it off Ebay.
>>>> I bought it off a high ranking Ebay shop that I've bought from before =
>>> and
>>>> who even replyed to my question about the phone's UI last night.
>>>>
>>>> The time/date have been set and the menus have not been altered from =
>>> the
>>>> oridginal nokia menu structure.
>>>>
>>>> The seller explained to me that if it's locked to a network they can =
>>> use
>>>> their own menu theme.
>>>>
>>>> I'm having to hoof it from lisburn to Whiteabbey today to see if =
>>> anyones
>>>> about in my student digs that could read the screen for me. I doubt =
>>> it
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> I don't and will go to whatever length I have to to get it read to me,
>>>> =
>>> but
>>>> it's ridiculous that common keystrokes can't be given to get me to
>>>> a=20
>>>> common
>>>> place on each phone so we can start from their.
>>>>
>>>> I plan on writing up a how to on this once I get this thing talking.=20
>>>> Maybe
>>>> it's time to open source the docs if Nuance don't have any that tell
>>>> somebody who's totally blind without some sighted at home to read the
>>>> screen?
>>>>
>>>> I'm not too proud to ask for help but it becomes very old quickly!
>>>>
>>>> Barry
>>>> =D4=E0=06
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:54 AM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This situation is unacceptable.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:40 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Steave.
>>>>
>>>> Won't have a pair of eyes till xmas.
>>>>
>>>> And you know what that can be like on xmas day.
>>>>
>>>> Did the steps i went through sound correct?
>>>>
>>>> Do I need to allow install files and if so any idea what the =
>>> keystrokes=20
>>>> are?
>>>>
>>>> Is their any documentation for this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Barry
>>>> =D4=E0=06
>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:26 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Barry,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like there is an error in the install process. This is why I=20
>>>> always
>>>> say that for a first time install, you need a pair of eyes around. =
>>> Best=20
>>>> to
>>>> find some peepers and see what is going on.
>>>>
>>>> All the best
>>>> --
>>>> Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
>>>> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277
>>>> International: +44(0)1438 742286,
>>>> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589
>>>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,
>>>> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
>>> Behalf=20
>>>> Of
>>>> Dj Paddy
>>>> Sent: 21 December 2006 17:50
>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] installing talks 3g On N91
>>>>
>>>> hi all.
>>>>
>>>> I've got a n91.
>>>>
>>>> Bought brand new and unlocked.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any documentation for installing talks?
>>>>
>>>> i've it connected to the pc suite no problems.
>>>>
>>>> I've the talks files no problem.
>>>>
>>>> Can some kind person do a step by step for me?
>>>>
>>>> Here's mine that I did.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Turned phone on,
>>>>
>>>> 2. Set location, and time/date in the form
>>>> 0706
>>>> date: 201206
>>>>
>>>> 3. Connected usb cable.
>>>>
>>>> 4. down arrowed once on phone and hit select to connect it to the pc.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Hit enter on the elaquince file in explorer and said yes to =
>>> install.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Kept hitting key one during install untill i heard the high pitch =
>>> beep
>>>> to say it had completed.
>>>>
>>>> 7. hit enter on the talks file and did the same I did on the =
>>> elaquince
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>> Except the talks file does a low tone bleep at me several times.
>>>>
>>>> I do not get anything talkign to me.
>>>>
>>>> is there a launch talks keystroke?
>>>>
>>>> Can somebody provide me with where the talks key is on the n91?
>>>>
>>>> Any documentation woudl be greately appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dj paddy
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