[access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
- From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:37:48 -0000
OK, point taken, but perhaps we still ought to be bringing more pressure on
the phone companies to install software for us before sending out phones
etc., because some of us just don't have enough support to manage that sort
of thing. I don't think I accept entirely either that Nokia can do nothing
more, because they too could have a system where software could be installed
before sending to a blind person, and Nuance perhaps could carry some kind
of information on their site about the different way phones install so hence
the need for sufficient support before purchase.
Anyway, just my thoughts!
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Carol
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
> Hi Carol,
>
> The problem here is that the keystrokes vary from phone to phone, from
> firmware to firmware, and even from operator to operator. For example,
> there is one setting on the phone, called Software or Software
> Installations. If this is set to Signed Only, then your Eloquence won't
> install. If this is set to on, then it will. But this is on only some
> versions of the phones. For example, I know someone who has an N91 on
> Vodafone, which has the software set to signed only, so you absolutely =
> need
> sighted help to turn it on. You can't write this up, because it is in a
> different position on the menus, according to different operators. =
> There is
> nothing that either Nokia or Nuance can do about the way operators =
> configure
> their phones by default. So unacceptable as it is, as Peter quite =
> rightly
> said, we will have to live with it for the moment. Part of it is =
> Nokia's
> fault, but not when they change phone default settings.
>
> One thing I will say is that you absolutely must have the time and date
> correct before you install, otherwise the certification won't work.
>
> All the best
> --
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
> Of
> Carol Pearson
> Sent: 22 December 2006 10:35
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
> Barry,
>
> You have my deep sympathy here. I really do think key strokes should be
> available. It's just not that easy to get ready-made help at the drop =
> of a
> whatever! <Smile>
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:15 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
>>I agree Peter. It is very frustrating.
>>
>> I've subscribed to the talks list now as well and generated about 30=20
>> emails
>> on this.
>>
>> People have either got sighted help or it's been fluked it seems and I =
>
>> can't
>> get any word on any documentation available.
>>
>> I'm not asking to be hand held I'll read anything that'll get me up =
> and
>> running.
>>
>> I've been asking all over the place.
>>
>> Alot of people seem to be sus cause I bought it off Ebay.
>> I bought it off a high ranking Ebay shop that I've bought from before =
> and
>> who even replyed to my question about the phone's UI last night.
>>
>> The time/date have been set and the menus have not been altered from =
> the
>> oridginal nokia menu structure.
>>
>> The seller explained to me that if it's locked to a network they can =
> use
>> their own menu theme.
>>
>> I'm having to hoof it from lisburn to Whiteabbey today to see if =
> anyones
>> about in my student digs that could read the screen for me. I doubt =
> it
>> though.
>>
>> I don't and will go to whatever length I have to to get it read to me, =
> but
>> it's ridiculous that common keystrokes can't be given to get me to a=20
>> common
>> place on each phone so we can start from their.
>>
>> I plan on writing up a how to on this once I get this thing talking.=20
>> Maybe
>> it's time to open source the docs if Nuance don't have any that tell
>> somebody who's totally blind without some sighted at home to read the
>> screen?
>>
>> I'm not too proud to ask for help but it becomes very old quickly!
>>
>> Barry
>> =D4=E0=06
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:54 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>>
>> This situation is unacceptable.
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:40 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>>
>> Hi Steave.
>>
>> Won't have a pair of eyes till xmas.
>>
>> And you know what that can be like on xmas day.
>>
>> Did the steps i went through sound correct?
>>
>> Do I need to allow install files and if so any idea what the =
> keystrokes=20
>> are?
>>
>> Is their any documentation for this?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Barry
>> =D4=E0=06
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:26 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>>
>> Hi Barry,
>>
>> Sounds like there is an error in the install process. This is why I=20
>> always
>> say that for a first time install, you need a pair of eyes around. =
> Best=20
>> to
>> find some peepers and see what is going on.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
>> Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users.
>> Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277
>> International: +44(0)1438 742286,
>> Fax: +44(0)1438 759589
>> mobile: +44(0)7956 334938,
>> Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
> Behalf=20
>> Of
>> Dj Paddy
>> Sent: 21 December 2006 17:50
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>> hi all.
>>
>> I've got a n91.
>>
>> Bought brand new and unlocked.
>>
>> Is there any documentation for installing talks?
>>
>> i've it connected to the pc suite no problems.
>>
>> I've the talks files no problem.
>>
>> Can some kind person do a step by step for me?
>>
>> Here's mine that I did.
>>
>> 1. Turned phone on,
>>
>> 2. Set location, and time/date in the form
>> 0706
>> date: 201206
>>
>> 3. Connected usb cable.
>>
>> 4. down arrowed once on phone and hit select to connect it to the pc.
>>
>> 5. Hit enter on the elaquince file in explorer and said yes to =
> install.
>>
>> 6. Kept hitting key one during install untill i heard the high pitch =
> beep
>> to say it had completed.
>>
>> 7. hit enter on the talks file and did the same I did on the =
> elaquince
>> file.
>>
>> Except the talks file does a low tone bleep at me several times.
>>
>> I do not get anything talkign to me.
>>
>> is there a launch talks keystroke?
>>
>> Can somebody provide me with where the talks key is on the n91?
>>
>> Any documentation woudl be greately appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dj paddy
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