[access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:20:03 +0100
Yeah. For those not in the know, it's not possible to have the
magnification and the screenreader going on the iPhone at the same time
(that's Zoom and Voiceover).
I've always assumed that this is a technology conflict issue in the same
way that it always used to be difficult to load your PC with more than
one screenreader or because of the screen capture technology conflicts.
Clearly that'd be an improvement.
Is there an iPhone list or blog where we can speak to the developers? Or
one that they read?
Sunil: the trebble tap on the home button, is this a deafult thing? Or
is it something you need to set up?
Anyone?
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Hi,
That's what we found as well. Ideally, all blind related motions would
be disabled when the voiceover is turned off. Then, one unique gesture
to turn the whole thing back up. Yes, by all means have the half way
house for when you just want to mute the speech for a moment, but doing
the above would make the Vi/non-VI cross experience more pleasurable. I
think that's one area where Talks did get it right.
Oh, another thing, we can't find a way to have both Voiceover and
magnification working at the same time. This seems to go for the iPad
as well, even after calling Apple technical support with iPad in hand it
doesn't seem possible.
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I think blindie gestures still apply if you turn Voiceover off with the
double tap of three fingers. Am I wrong?
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Ah, OK. I didn't realise that. I thought when you killed voiceover it
didn't actually close the app completely. But I'll know for myself
tomorrow if my iPhone arrives.
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Sent: 09 April 2010 14:04
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
no you can tripple tap the home button and then turn on voiceover that
way so you can tripple click to turn it off completely and then reverse
it
On 9 Apr 2010, at 14:02, Hussein Patwa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Actually, the only annoyance with voiceover, and I'm not sure if this
holds
> for the Symbian readers, is that you can't mute the voice and kill the
> voiceover gestures at the same time so a sighted person could fully
> use
the
> phone without conflict with the voiceover gestures. You can kill
voiceover
> completely, but then you need to reactive at and you need sight to see
> the 'on' option in the little menu that appears.
>
> I do think the ability to activate the speech via iTunes before the
> device is even switched on is rather neat though. It makes it really
> handy for those without sighted assistance who don't need to worry
> about installing things or configuring access settings before they can
get started.
>
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>
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>
> Hi,
>
> Whereas that may be true, you've got to admit for accessibility with a
touch
> phone voiceover has the competition beat. I'll verify this myself
> over
the
> next day or two, but having been in close touch with someone who's
> tried both major screen readers for Symbian, and voiceover for over a
> month, I think he's right.
>
> Best,
>
>
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>
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>
> Hussein.
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> Hussein Patwa
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> Behalf
Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: 09 April 2010 11:26
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>
> Hi Gordon,
>
> If you want to know what is in OS 4 for iPhone, just take a seven year
> old Symbian phone, and you're about there <Smile>.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> Behalf
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> Gordon Keen
> Sent: Friday 9 April 2010 08:45
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> Subject: [access-uk] iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>
>
> Apple continue to add functionality to their products.
>
> http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/04/08/iphone-os-4-0-features-unveiled/
>
> Regards
>
> G
>
> From glorious Devon, England.
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