Hi, This is what we couldn't get to work. I'll try this myself when I receive the iPhone and post back results. Thanks. _______________________________________ Have a pleasant day, Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Hussein. Hussein Patwa Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa Skype: patwaspotterfan2 GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter Web: www.patwanet.co.uk My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock Sent: 09 April 2010 18:45 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] Why do you need sight to reactivate voice over? Once you've enabled the home button triple tap feature it's not a problem. Peter -------------------------------------------------- From: "Hussein Patwa" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:02 PM To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] > Hi, > > Actually, the only annoyance with voiceover, and I'm not sure if this > holds > for the Symbian readers, is that you can't mute the voice and kill the > voiceover gestures at the same time so a sighted person could fully use > the > phone without conflict with the voiceover gestures. You can kill > voiceover > completely, but then you need to reactive at and you need sight to see the > 'on' option in the little menu that appears. > > I do think the ability to activate the speech via iTunes before the device > is even switched on is rather neat though. It makes it really handy for > those without sighted assistance who don't need to worry about installing > things or configuring access settings before they can get started. > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Hussein Patwa > Sent: 09 April 2010 13:53 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The > Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] > > Hi, > > Whereas that may be true, you've got to admit for accessibility with a > touch > phone voiceover has the competition beat. I'll verify this myself over > the > next day or two, but having been in close touch with someone who's tried > both major screen readers for Symbian, and voiceover for over a month, I > think he's right. > > Best, > > > _______________________________________ > Have a pleasant day, > > Kind Regards and Best Wishes, > > Hussein. > > Hussein Patwa > Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) > Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) > Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa > Skype: patwaspotterfan2 > GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter > Web: www.patwanet.co.uk > My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com > > Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Steve Nutt > Sent: 09 April 2010 11:26 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The > Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com] > > Hi Gordon, > > If you want to know what is in OS 4 for iPhone, just take a seven year old > Symbian phone, and you're about there <Smile>. > > All the best > > Steve > > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Gordon Keen > Sent: Friday 9 April 2010 08:45 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The Mac-cessibility > Network - 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