Andrew - all:the billing department is a nightmare, otherwise i agree - they aren't the cheapest though.
at another location, I have chosen to go with Eclipse who are efficient in all ways in my experience.
David----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Ireland" <a.emaillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 11:22 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible internet service providers
Hi All,I have used Demon Internet for years, started with normal type dial up, thento ISDN, and now on ADSL, and I haven't had any problems at all. All the best -- Andrew Secrets That We Keep Audio Book by David Caldwell:- http://www.secretsthatwekeep.com/mainindex.php?code=006 -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfJackie Cairns Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:44 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible internet service providers Since we started using broadband, we've been with the various guises ofFreeserve, Wanadoo and Orange, Telewest, and now Sky. With each, we've beenable to access the web-based interface where you can check the status of your modem speed, security settings, etc. Our major stumbling block has been knowing which lights are flashing or are not working on the modem.These are usually the first questions you are asked when you get someone ona help desk. Some people react better than others when we've explainedthere is no sight in the house at the time of calling. I don't think thereis a way round this issue, because even the light probes we have haven't helped sufficiently to be sure. In all the cases where we have had to contact a help desk, the problems have been at their end, or have beenissues outwith our control. And when it gets too technical, Jackie beats ahasty retreat to make tea, leaving Ian to sort it out (big smile). Jackie----- Original Message ----- From: "Georgina" <gena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible internet service providersHi Several thoughts come to mind from reading this post. Firstly, in many cases, the terms screen reading software etc are likely to be outside of the support desk training. I'd suggest that questions about whether the WC3 accessibility initiative guidelines have been applied when the user is askedto navigate an area of a provider's web site, should be asked. Many sites have a page about accessibility. Still relevant to web sites and providedsoftware is to ask about what are the user ability features that would be applied within any heuristic evaluation. i.e. What are the means ofnavigation how much consistency is there etc. It's not only screen readerusers that benefit from this practice that has developed from years of research. See: http://www.useit.com/papers/heuristic/ Of course the purchaser has the ability to visit many of the provider's sites and get a feel for the site. Because what is explanatory for oneperson could be too verbose or complex for another. There are a number offeatures an individual can look for too. Such as the Any Browser, logo and the WWW valid xhtml icons. But these are only guides because sites can display them then change the site without rechecking the validity. It stillcomes down to personal choice. But while support is very important in thebeginning, isn't the performance and reliability of the service just as important?But with many things, the most effective selling method is that of word ofmouth. So to ask other users, is the most psychologically persuasive argument. Didn't Dolphin set up an ISP? I'm not sure what the situation is with that now-a-days. Gena -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 04 January 2008 21:14 To: bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] accessible internet service providers Hi all I'm in a discussion on skype with a couple of my friends, and we were talking about the lack of knowledge of people in help desks, concerning how to help someone using a screenreader perform tasks on a part of a provider's broadband site. They are frustrated because of the lack of accessibility in choosing or managing their various broadband features. I wonder therefore, why can't some of the technology companies providingaccess equipment, or possibly RNIB and any others who would be interested,in setting up a truly accessible broadband provider. I imagine that this would probably involve using someone's network, to do this, and any profits could be ploughed back into accessible technology products or services. I wonder whether anyone has ever thought about this, is it feasible? 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