A very good point. I remember a friend who, where in the old days of cafes, it was often polite to leave a shilling under the plate as a tip. In the event of bad service, he left one of his specially printed business cards which, printed on the back was, "I tip for service!". So sometimes it pays to pay just a little more for that service. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 9:45 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: accessible internet service providers Hi, Many years ago, Joe, who was on this list, had some sort of arrangement with Demon internet where screenreader users could get help. Customer Services at Demon were aware of this and passed Screenreader users on to Joe for assistance. Then all the budget providers came along and noone wanted to pay for the extra benefit of customer services. On 4 Jan 2008 at 21:14, alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi all > > I'm in a discussion on skype with a couple of my friends, and we were > talking about the lack of knowledge of people in help desks, concerning how > to help someone using a screenreader perform tasks on a part of a provider's > broadband site. They are frustrated because of the lack of accessibility in > choosing or managing their various broadband features. > > I wonder therefore, why can't some of the technology companies providing > access equipment, or possibly RNIB and any others who would be interested, > in setting up a truly accessible broadband provider. I imagine that this > would probably involve using someone's network, to do this, and any profits > could be ploughed back into accessible technology products or services. > > I wonder whether anyone has ever thought about this, is it feasible? > > Alex > skype name: grytpype2006 > windows live messenger name: alex.thynne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 2766 (20080104) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq