hi vince this is truly truly very interesting and always a wory when for a totally blind person carrying your devices around with you. where ever we are we are vunerable and again i am so fortunate to have the means of reading braille on a very very small device whereever i go. satnav is vital for me in my life as i tune pianos and go off to chess tournaments. it is very interesting to hear other people's comments to the way they get around this difficulty as if i walk about i have grace on my left in harness or generally now a lot of the time tuning i do get a lift where i can use any satnav in a car. with either georgie tellorion or the new sendero gps on the iphone the difficulty when walking about in noisey conditions is to how we receive info from the phone. when i walk with the dog i either have the phone in a top jacket pocket connected to the braille device which is strapped over me or if i am finding say 23 leeds road i have the phone in my right hand listening to ho w near the destination i am. but i think vince you have brought up a very good point about using these devices with regards to them maybe being stollen whilst we walk about. but again tellorion is very very good indeed. their gps i just leave on with the phone in a jacket pocket so i can hear which road i am coming up to. hth. ----- Original Message ----- From: Vincent Thacker <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, 11 May 2014 2.24 am Subject: [access-uk] Re: Thanks for info on SmartVision > > > Have a listen to Steve Nutt's podcasts about the TelOrion. Seems very > impressive, but there are issues about using it with headphones that concern > me. Given that I wouldn't want to go through the streets parading 500 > quidsworth of phone, it would have to live somewhere hidden with > bone-conducting headphones. I deally I'd be able to use a phone with one of > those headsets that includes a microphone for giving voice commands, but I > don't know whether this would rule out Tel Orion at the moment. > > > Evidently Mr Nutt is chasing up the headphone sbug, so let's hope it can be > fixed before long. > > Vince. > > > > > > > ======================================== > Message Received: May 11 2014, 12.40 AM > From: "Clive Pallett" > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: > Subject: [access-uk] Thanks for info on SmartVision > > Hello Jackie, > > Thank you very much for posting the link for the SmartVision phone. I see it > is running on android 4.0, which, by the way, is an older version than > Telorion currently supports. > > As for Telorion, my wife Moray and I first saw this demonstrated at the sight > Matters exhibition run by KAB in folkestone last September. We were > immediately impressed and Moray bought her Galaxy S4 Mini last month. She has > some sight, so uses Zoom, the magnification part of Telorion. I have used Vox > with the keypad with some success, but I need to get used to typing on the > screen through the holes which is quite different from using a physical > keypad. > > From the short demonstration I heard about the SmartVision phone I am > wondering if I may find this easier to use than a phone running Telorion. > Also, the price is £495, a little less than a Telorion phone. > > From your comments, Jackie, I take it you are not impressed with the Kapten > GPS products, and smartvision uses voice recognition as one means to control > the phone's features. Telorion also has voice recognition but you must be > connected either through a wireless network or your phone's network to use > it. > We have had some fun with Moray's phone with some interesting results. > > I will keep my options open for now, but as Moray already has a phone running > Telorion, I think at the end of the day I will go with that, bearing in mind > it is frequently updated, all updates are free and there are plans to support > newer phones and later versions of Android. > > Best wishes, > > Clive Pallett > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq