[access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?

  • From: "John Wilson" <j.wilson07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:08:17 -0000

Hello Aedan,

I've now had more time to test things and find that you can 
review and edit what you type in WordPad in the normal way 
but not in Notepad. However, I have discovered, in Notepad, 
that if you first highlight the whole screen with CONTROL A, 
you can then read/review what you type and edit it 
(strange).

Still no luck, though, on WebPages but Steve Griffiths has 
just given me a tip using CAPSLOCK and the ARROW keys I 
haven't yet tried on WebPages, which I will try tomorrow.

I'll get the Win 8.1 update as soon as I can get someone 
else around here to do the unavoidable question 
answering/option selecting during the installation which I 
have read is necessary.

BFN,
John.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aedan O'Meara" <aedanomeara@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:06 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, 
please read?


Hi John,
I am running 8.1 and Narrator is working fully in notepad 
but does nothing
for Outlook, can't read the subject line or the body of the 
text. Don't know
about html.
Kind regards
Aedan.


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
John Wilson
Sent: 12 January 2014 21:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, 
please read?

I've now got Win 8.0 installed but had to get someone round 
to do this. It
was completely impossible without sighted help. The copy I 
have comes up
wanting you to answer numerous questions before any 
screenreader or Narrator
can be loaded.

Additionally, after full installation,  even the experienced 
computer
software engineer I got to do this found it hard to get 
Narrator working!

However, it's all up and running now but, as many people 
have said, the new
version of Narrator (except for the much better English 
voice) is no
screanreader in the real sense.
It cannot read/review even text typed into Notepad! Nor can 
it read what is
displayed on HTML pages, other than being able to tab 
through the various
elements on the page!

Do you know if Win 8.1 is any better as far as Narrator is 
concerned?

BFN,
John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lorimer" <tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, 
please read?


Hi John,

It's possible you have the speaker cable in the wrong socket 
and this is why
you are getting no sounds.
Try plugging the speaker cable in the front of the computer 
where you
usually just have the mic and speaker connections.
On all the computers i've got the speaker socket is the one 
at the left or
top if they're mounted verticaly.
The Windows key U starts the Ease of access centre and the 
Windows key and
Enter key starts Narrator.
If all this fails, have you thought of using NVDA on a pen 
drive, with a USB
sound card at the ready if needed.

I don't think you're in safe mode, i'm sure it's just the 
registration
screen, and once you get past that it will load to the start 
screen.

Cheers Tom.

On 11/01/2014 02:57 PM, John Wilson wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just tried Tom's Windows Key U and Windows Key ENTER 
> suggestion but,
> again, nothing audible happened.
>
> I have also noticed that there are no system/internal 
> speaker beeps or
> confirmation sounds either, such as when you unplug and 
> then replug a
> USB keyboard.
>
> It may be that the copy I have is, indeed, as someone 
> suggested,
> starting in safe mode and so no drivers are loaded and 
> Narrator cannot
> start from this environment.
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to wait until I can get 
> some one in on
> Sunday or early in the week.
>
> thanks for all the suggestions.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Wilson" <j.wilson07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:26 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?
>
>
> Hello Tom and All,
>
> I tried to install it last night but with no luck. I 
> switched on and
> left the computer for half an hour and then tried to 
> install a demo of
> JAWS 15 from a copy I had on a CD but got no speech. I 
> then used
> Windows Key and R (for Run) and typed in "narrator" but, 
> again, no
> speech. I have always been able to load Narrator in this 
> way before
> but something may have now changed in how you can do this?
>
> I used some USB speakers and was getting hiss through them 
> but nothing
> else, despite plugging the Jack plug into all of the five 
> available
> sockets on the onboard sound card.
>
> I'll have another go with what you suggest Tom and report 
> back.
>
> Thanks.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Lorimer" <tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> If I remember, it comes up with a screen asking you to 
> create or log
> in with your Microsoft account.
> At this stage you can start Narrator with the Windows Key 
> and U then
> the Windows key and the Enter key.
> _
> Cheers Tom.
> _
> On 10/01/2014 02:46 PM, John Wilson wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I've just received my new desktop computer  with Windows
>> 8
>> .
>> Does anyone know how it comes up when you turn the 
>> computer on for
>> the first time. The OS is preinstalled but does it come 
>> up working
>> and able to let you install your screenreader or do you 
>> have to see
>> the screen and answer important questions before the OS 
>> will complete
>> its installation?
>>
>> I simply need to know if I can get it working without 
>> sighted help or
>> will have to wait until I can get someone to look at the 
>> screen for
>> me. I have scanned the quick guide which came with it but 
>> it says
>> nothing enlightening other than you must not interrupt or 
>> turn off
>> the computer during first turn on/installation.
>>
>> Any current users' guidance would be much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks.
>> John.
>>
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