[access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?

  • From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:20:46 -0000

I'm able to use CapsLock + RightArrow to move through everything on a
web page - does this not work for you? I'm on Windows 8.1 now, but this
worked on Windows 8 too. I use Internet Explorer and Firefox. And I can
read and review Notepad documents.

In any situation you can press CapsLock + F1 to get a list of narrator
keystrokes. It's not as good as other screen readers, but it should be
possible to do the basics like reading a web page or a Notepad document.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of John Wilson
Sent: 12 January 2014 21:52
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, please
read?

I've now got Win 8.0 installed but had to get someone round to do this.
It was completely impossible without sighted help. The copy I have comes
up wanting you to answer numerous questions before any screenreader or
Narrator can be loaded.

Additionally, after full installation,  even the experienced computer
software engineer I got to do this found it hard to get Narrator
working!

However, it's all up and running now but, as many people have said, the
new version of Narrator (except for the much better English voice) is no
screanreader in the real sense. 
It cannot read/review even text typed into Notepad! Nor can it read what
is displayed on HTML pages, other than being able to tab through the
various elements on the page!

Do you know if Win 8.1 is any better as far as Narrator is concerned?

BFN,
John.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Lorimer" <tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 4:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Re Update: Re: any Windows 8 users, please
read?


Hi John,

It's possible you have the speaker cable in the wrong socket and this is
why you are getting no sounds.
Try plugging the speaker cable in the front of the computer where you
usually just have the mic and speaker connections.
On all the computers i've got the speaker socket is the one at the left
or top if they're mounted verticaly.
The Windows key U starts the Ease of access centre and the Windows key
and Enter key starts Narrator.
If all this fails, have you thought of using NVDA on a pen drive, with a
USB sound card at the ready if needed.

I don't think you're in safe mode, i'm sure it's just the registration
screen, and once you get past that it will load to the start screen.

Cheers Tom.

On 11/01/2014 02:57 PM, John Wilson wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I just tried Tom's Windows Key U and Windows Key ENTER suggestion but,

> again, nothing audible happened.
>
> I have also noticed that there are no system/internal speaker beeps or

> confirmation sounds either, such as when you unplug and then replug a 
> USB keyboard.
>
> It may be that the copy I have is, indeed, as someone suggested, 
> starting in safe mode and so no drivers are loaded and Narrator cannot

> start from this environment.
>
> It looks like I'm going to have to wait until I can get some one in on

> Sunday or early in the week.
>
> thanks for all the suggestions.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Wilson" <j.wilson07@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:26 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?
>
>
> Hello Tom and All,
>
> I tried to install it last night but with no luck. I switched on and 
> left the computer for half an hour and then tried to install a demo of

> JAWS 15 from a copy I had on a CD but got no speech. I then used 
> Windows Key and R (for Run) and typed in "narrator" but, again, no 
> speech. I have always been able to load Narrator in this way before 
> but something may have now changed in how you can do this?
>
> I used some USB speakers and was getting hiss through them but nothing

> else, despite plugging the Jack plug into all of the five available 
> sockets on the onboard sound card.
>
> I'll have another go with what you suggest Tom and report back.
>
> Thanks.
> John.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Lorimer" <tlorimer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 11:19 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: any Windows 8 users, please read?
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> If I remember, it comes up with a screen asking you to create or log 
> in with your Microsoft account.
> At this stage you can start Narrator with the Windows Key and U then 
> the Windows key and the Enter key.
> _
> Cheers Tom.
> _
> On 10/01/2014 02:46 PM, John Wilson wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I've just received my new desktop computer  with Windows
>> 8
>> .
>> Does anyone know how it comes up when you turn the computer on for 
>> the first time. The OS is preinstalled but does it come up working 
>> and able to let you install your screenreader or do you have to see 
>> the screen and answer important questions before the OS will complete

>> its installation?
>>
>> I simply need to know if I can get it working without sighted help or

>> will have to wait until I can get someone to look at the screen for 
>> me. I have scanned the quick guide which came with it but it says 
>> nothing enlightening other than you must not interrupt or turn off 
>> the computer during first turn on/installation.
>>
>> Any current users' guidance would be much appreciated.
>>
>> thanks.
>> John.
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