Agree, Clive
Jo
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From: Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 12:22 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
Hello,
I find the idea disturbing, that blind people would be expected to raise
funds on the street for free, while sighted people would be paid for doing
the same thing. Is this not discrimination? There is a gratitude attitude
coming in here, I think, similar to the one in which some local societies
have blind volunteers and sighted employees sitting next to each other doing
exactly the same thing.
I also feel some disquiet at the RNIB's preoccupation with sight loss. This
doesn't mean I don't believe newly-blind people should get the support they
need and deserve. It means that I wonder how, if so many services related to
blindness but neither to sight loss prevention, nor to support for people
when they lose their sight are allowed to atrophy, what are the prospects
for blind people one or two years after initial sight loss, when they're
getting to grips with issues like: "Where can I find a watch or a washing
machine I can use" and the answers they receive are vague or blatantly
negative": "unfortunately we don't have anyone here who can help you any
more".
Best,
Clive
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Michael Moore
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:58
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
Hi,
I'll keep this short as it is not the proper list to express these thoughts.
It infuriates me as many organisations like us to remain dependant, as it
keeps them in work... Also another pet gripe is organisations having VI
people out collecting in public areas, which is a bit like emotional
blackmail, yet pay fund raisers £30K+ per year as an employed staff member.
Rant over.
Mike
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Eleanor burke
Sent: 09 October 2015 14:33
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
well personally I do not think you should be telling them in accurate
information I am of the opinion if you are going to have conversation about
your dog with the public you should be educating them.
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hi janet strangely when i got in to the leeds station today a dog tried to get to zarah and it was someone with a training dog maybe aben drury but of course they never speak to us or anything but, like ian says all this from a charity that years ago fought of us like hell campained for things to be bejter for us people have been on committees spending hours fighting for our rights and now they come out with something like this. the public are very gullable and believe all this rubbish.
in sheffield people used to ask me how i got on the right bus and i told them the dog could read the numbers and you know they believed it.
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From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
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Hi John
I just despair of these people and you are right you tell guide dogs
things and no notice is taken whatsoever because totally blind people
are in a minority they are just left on the shelf to disappear.
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From: john gallagher
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:17 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
hi janet well i am certainly not going to pay for the rubbish over
drive set up sad really but to me like the guide dogs the people at
the top never discuss anything with us at the bottom so to speak.
also on the train today someone was adamant i could see are you
parttly sighted she kept asking it just felt as though i had landed from outer space.
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From: Janet Bell <janet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Friday, 9 October 2015 1:59 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
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Hi Ian
I don't know if you read this newspaper but last week in the daily
mirror there was an article about an American woman who wanted to go
blind which infuriated me about as much as what you have written
has. There was also an advert about fifteen years ago done by
action for blind people that made us look totally helpless which
annoyed me as well. I don't buy the rnib's products as I think they
are poor quality most of the time. and when my year's subscription
is up I don't think I will renew it either.
Janet ps there are still letters at the bottom of your messages.
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From: Ian Macrae
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 1:52 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] RNIB PRODUCT BOYCOTT
I am seriously considering boycotting what few RNIB products and
services I use — chiefly the electronic newspaper service — in
response to their latest ad campaign. There has been an item on
this at the end of today's edition of WATO. Celebs including
Barbara Windsor and Shirley Bassey are presented talking about the
idea of being told they're going blind. Bassey describes that
possibility as being "Devastating" and says she might as well be
told that she's going to die. Once again they have turned my
impairment into a thing of terror and me into an object of pity and
I've had enough of
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