[access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)
- From: Ian Macrae <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 14:35:25 +0000
I’m afraid the argument that apple is buggy at the moment is rather
short-termist. the fact remains that they have made the sound business
decision to embed access solutions right across their product range at no extra
cost to end users who can choose to use them or not. IOS 8.1 is a significant
improvement on the original upgrade which probably was rushed out before its
time. The Apple approach not only makes business sense to them but also is
inclusive in ways no other manufacturers are. In terms of disability politics
it puts us on what are very close to level terms and enables us to make
choices. What’s more, i’ve reported the one really significant issue I’ve had
with Yosemite direct to apple’s accessibility team and had a direct reply from
them saying thanks and that they’re on it. Sniping about bugs really fails to
address the big issues we face as disabled consumers.
> On 6 Nov 2014, at 12:35, Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> So who, if anyone, do you think is getting inclusive design right? VoiceOver
> with all its bugs is at least built in, not bolted on.
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:28
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accessibility than a synthetic voice (was
> telephone landlines)
>
> Hi,
>
> Don't want it to work like Apple at the moment, full of bugs <Big Smile>.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was
> telephone landlines)
>
> Hello all,
>
> I wonder if the problem with partial accessibility is another instance of
> what I think happened with Blackberry and the early models of Kindle. There
> seems to be a naïve assumption on the part of some companies that if a device
> speaks at all, it will be fully accessible to blind people. So you get spoken
> caller id but no spoken menu; could read a book on the old Kindle, but try
> using the silent keyboard; Blackberry had speech output on a useless touch
> screen device, so at least you were told when you'd accidentally fouled up
> settings you didn't intend to tamper with. Perhaps developers should be
> asking "does it work well? And is it versatile", instead of adding in
> half-baked accessibility features. In short, does it work like apple?
>
> Best,
> Clive
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Mobeen Iqbal
> Sent: 06 November 2014 12:06
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones
>
> hi pele. yep that's the one. yes, i agree it is a real shame!
>
> all the best,
>
> Mo.
>
> On 06/11/2014 11:57, Pele West wrote:
>> Hi Mo
>>
>> Thanks. We do have a cordless phone with 3 handsets connected as well,
>> but thanks for the information about the Panasonic system. Is this the
>> one that speaks the name of the person calling if they are in the
>> phone's address book? It is a shame it does not speak all the menus
>> and things.
>>
>> Pele
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