[access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was telephone landlines)

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:10:24 -0000

Hi,

OK, why does built in make it best?  For example, with Android, and they too
have weaknesses, I don't have to wait for a whole operating system update,
before they update Talkback.

I don't understand this just because it is part of the operating system, it
is best.  That would be like saying Narrator is built into Windows, so it
must be the best screen reader, and we all know that isn't true.  Complete
nonsense.

Rant over.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:35
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was
telephone landlines)

Hi Steve,

So who, if anyone, do you think is getting inclusive design right? VoiceOver
with all its bugs is at least built in, not bolted on.

Best,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was
telephone landlines)

Hi,

Don't want it to work like Apple at the moment, full of bugs <Big Smile>.

All the best

Steve

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Clive.Lever@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:20
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] More to accesibility than a synthetic voice (was
telephone landlines)

Hello all,

I wonder if the problem with partial accessibility is another instance of
what I think happened with Blackberry and the early models of Kindle. There
seems to be a naïve assumption on the part of some companies that if a
device speaks at all, it will be fully accessible to blind people. So you
get spoken caller id but no spoken menu; could read a book on the old
Kindle, but try using the silent keyboard; Blackberry had speech output on a
useless touch screen device, so at least you were told when you'd
accidentally fouled up settings you didn't intend to tamper with. Perhaps
developers should be asking "does it work well? And is it versatile",
instead of adding in half-baked accessibility features. In short, does it
work like apple?

Best,
Clive

 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 06 November 2014 12:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Land Line Telephones

hi pele. yep that's the one. yes, i agree it is a real shame!

all the best,

Mo.

On 06/11/2014 11:57, Pele West wrote:
> Hi Mo
>
> Thanks. We do have a cordless phone with 3 handsets connected as well, 
> but thanks for the information about the Panasonic system. Is this the 
> one that speaks the name of the person calling if they are in the 
> phone's address book? It is a shame it does not speak all the menus 
> and things.
>
> Pele
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