[access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator

  • From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 May 2016 07:11:51 +0100

Hi Everyone.

That is nonsense in my view; I like many others find this list an invaluable resource, both professionally and personally and would resent the idea that this list became so discussion averse to all but the most technical of topics. I think it is fare and reasonable to say that we have here a fabulous community, full of users and experts alike at all levels and there are many areas of access technology which should be allowed for discussion, including gadgets and gismos. Of course the line has to be drawn somewhere, discussion about mobility with guide dogs which has frequently made an appearance here, or discussion related to other blindness topics such as independent travel where there is no baring on technology should be conducted on a more appropriate forum, but to outright ban coffee machines, tea makers, washing machines or indeed such humble devices as the colour and light detectors we all to some degree depend on would sharply diminish this forum's value to me.

All the best, Ibrahim.

-----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 6:07 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator

Hi Derek,

Given that then, we shouldn't be talking about cordless telephones, call
blockers, DAB radios and gadgets.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Derek Hornby
Sent: 14 May 2016 12:31
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator

Hi  Steve
"What is the definition of access tech?"

The methods for gaining access to a computer system or network such as
dial-up modem, cable modem, DSL, satellite and wireless.


http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia/term/37399/access-technology

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Nutt
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2016 12:21 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator

Hi Ed,

Here is where it becomes difficult and I agree with your post.  What is the
definition of access tech?  I agree with you and we all, myself included,
have been guilty of talking about gadgets, trueCall in my case and other
gadgets.  So the guidelines do either need to be enforced, or re-written.
Anyone care to define access tech in this context?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Edward Green
Sent: 14 May 2016 00:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator

Hi George,

I don't dispute that that's what the list guidelines say, and on a strict
interpretation of those guidelines, coffee machines are prima facie off
topic.

However, this constitute peripatetic enforcement.  I went onto the April
archive page of Access-UK to see how many messages had been posted about the
Goodmans DAB Digital Radio.  To be honest, I gave up counting, but there
were a lot more than there have been on the coffee machine thread and I
didn't see one from you about the thread being off topic.  BTW if anyone
wants to count, the link is
https://www.freelists.org/archive/access-uk/04-2016?threads=1.

If the speed  limit is 70 miles an hour, you have to enforce it for all cars
you see doing 90, not just yellow ones.  Or if you prefer, if the referee
books a player for a tackle from behind after 5 minutes, he has to book
everyone else who does the same thing in the rest of the game.

Cheers,

Ed

On 13 May 2016, at 23:42, George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm hoping this plain text message is visible to all members.

The first part of the list's Welcome message says:

"1. This list is primarily set up for UK users of Access Technology
to
discuss any technical problems which are related to either the hardware or
software they are using."

Note the words "users of Access Technology".

I'm sorry, but coffee machines, guide dogs and such like are not
"Access
Technology".

There are others lists to discuss such topics, and if this
continues, it
will be necessary to take a harder line here.

George Bell.
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