Precisely!
It may be a fine dividing line for some, but when it gets down to hard water,
discs and pods in the likes of coffee machines, that's way off "tech".
I've tried to be somewhat relaxed with many off-topic subjects, guide dogs
being another recent one, but unfortunately some generate huge amounts of
response. It's all very well to say, "just hit the delete key", but as
moderator I have a moral, if not legal, responsibility to review all messages.
While some may consider the BCAB list appropriate for some things, especially
PCs for example, one of the purposes of access-uk was to assist those who are
less experienced in such technical areas.
George Bell
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Steve Nutt
Sent: 14 May 2016 18:17
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator
Hi Ian,
That's why I merely said we need clarification. But it has to be tech in my
view, not things like case locks. <Smile>.
All the best
Steve
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Macrae (Redacted sender "ian.macrae1" for DMARC)
Sent: 14 May 2016 16:44
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I’k like to make the following points.
First excellent support for those requiring in in respect of using computers
and computer-related equipment is already available from the BCAB list.
Second, my answer to steve question about definition would be any technology
which makes life or apsects of life more accessible to blind users.
Third, in the past I’ve seen discussions on this list about washing machines,
central heating controls, various pieces of kitchen equipment and the
oft-quoted DAB radios. That list is by no means exhaustive. Many people have ob
On 14 May 2016, at 12:21, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ed,
Here is where it becomes difficult and I agree with your post. What
is the definition of access tech? I agree with you and we all, myself
included, have been guilty of talking about gadgets, trueCall in my
case and other gadgets. So the guidelines do either need to be enforced, or
re-written.
Anyone care to define access tech in this context?
All the best
Steve
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Behalf Of Edward Green
Sent: 14 May 2016 00:19
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Message from Moderator
Hi George,
I don't dispute that that's what the list guidelines say, and on a
strict interpretation of those guidelines, coffee machines are prima
facie off topic.
However, this constitute peripatetic enforcement. I went onto the
April archive page of Access-UK to see how many messages had been
posted about the Goodmans DAB Digital Radio. To be honest, I gave up
counting, but there were a lot more than there have been on the coffee
machine thread and I didn't see one from you about the thread being
off topic. BTW if anyone wants to count, the link is
https://www.freelists.org/archive/access-uk/04-2016?threads=1.
If the speed limit is 70 miles an hour, you have to enforce it for
all cars you see doing 90, not just yellow ones. Or if you prefer, if
the referee books a player for a tackle from behind after 5 minutes,
he has to book everyone else who does the same thing in the rest of the game.
Cheers,
Ed
On 13 May 2016, at 23:42, George Bell <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:discuss any technical problems which are related to either the
I'm hoping this plain text message is visible to all members.
The first part of the list's Welcome message says:
"1. This list is primarily set up for UK users of Access Technology
to
hardware or software they are using."
Technology".
Note the words "users of Access Technology".
I'm sorry, but coffee machines, guide dogs and such like are not
"Access
will be necessary to take a harder line here.
There are others lists to discuss such topics, and if this continues,
it
George Bell.
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