I got mine from PC World. It is white. -original message- Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 15/01/2011 2:30 pm It was nowhere near that much Eleanor and, come to think of it, I don't know about the rodent, I haven't seen it! (smile). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 January 2011 18:16 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini Not expensive perhaps for Martain but mouse and keyboard coming in at seventy pounds sterling is expensive for me Jackie. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 3:44 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini > Actually Eleanor it wasn't expensive according to what Martin said > when he was building his package. But you are right, it is a cracker! > > > Kind Regards, > > Jackie Cairns > J&M Work-Ability > > jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.work-ability.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 12 January 2011 17:50 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini > > That Apple keyboard is a lovely one. I purchased one and a matching > white mouse to go with it. The keyboard having those USB ports on > either side is very good too. Very expensive though. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:39 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini > > >> Hi Carol >> >> I don't have iTunes on Windows, having thought about it and deciding >> against it because of a Mac being present in the house. It's not my >> favourite program, it never will be, but it's part of the Apple >> thing, so best to go with it. >> >> Our nearest store is in Belfast, so not exactly down the road from >> where we live either. But it is on my list of places to visit when I >> get an opportunity just to see what they do have and how much they >> really do know about VoiceOver etc. >> >> I've just ordered a keyboard for my iPod Touch too, so will see how I >> get on with that. I'm getting the hang of the gestures, but typing >> on it in edit fields is a bit of a pain in the bum, so have decided >> to use a keyboard for when that need arises. >> >> I do have the VoiceOver manuals in BRF format Carol which I >> downloaded from the Accessibility page of the Apple site if you would >> like them and can open or load them onto a note-taker. This might >> give you a further feel for what VoiceOver can do. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Jackie Cairns >> J&M Work-Ability >> >> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.work-ability.co.uk >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Carol Pearson >> Sent: 12 January 2011 16:51 >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini >> >> Jackie, >> >> Thanks for this additional information which is most helpful. >> >> Like you, I'm becoming very drawn. This desktop is getting pretty >> old now so, perhaps when it dies, I'll be treating myself to a Mac >> and just have that plus my laptop. >> >> The keyboard sounds most interesting. It's a pity there isn't an >> Apple store that near to me as I'd be spending time there for sure! >> >> Tell me if you get into surfing yourself and or to the email side of >> things. >> >> I was interested to see the other day that you no longer have to have >> Itunes as a default player when using it in Windows. This means that >> I may well give it a go and just use when it suits me. >> >> -- >> Carol P >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:39 AM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini >> >>> Hi Carol >>> >>> Firstly, in relation to the keyboard, you could probably get away >>> with a Windows effort, but I wouldn't personally do that. If I >>> might explain, the bottom row of the Apple keyboard has the control >>> key on the left, followed by what is termed as the Options key as >>> opposed to the Windows key. You use the control and Options keys >>> to navigate with VoiceOver, and they are often referred to as the VO >>> keys. Next to the Options key is where you would normally find your >>> Alt key in Windows, but this is known on the Mac as the Command key. >>> Then you have your space-bar, and the same keys I've described going >>> from right to left. I'm not overly familiar with everything on the >>> keyboard yet, but it does have two USB ports on it, one at each end, >>> where you can plug in a pen or attach your iPod or whatever. It's a >>> lovely keyboard to type on though, and connects to the Mini via >>> standard > USB. >>> >>> Safari is interesting to browse and is, in my opinion, faster to >>> load than Internet Explorer and that's doing so wirelessly. >>> >>> Martin has used the Email side of it and finds it works fine. >>> >>> I'm still very much in the early stages of playing with it Carol as >>> I don't get as much time as I would like with so much other stuff to >>> do, and being dictated to by my wretched back problems. >>> >>> But it's a world I'm becoming very drawn to. I couldn't ever see me >>> trading off what I use already to go Mac full-time, but I like the >>> alternatives, and the fact you aren't being ripped off with >>> upgrades, SMA nonsense ... >>> (enough said). >>> >>> Also, Braille display support on the Mac is very good. I can just >>> plug in my Alva BC680 and it goes, no faffing around with drivers >>> and digital signing when Apple brings out an update to the operating >>> system. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> >>> Jackie Cairns >>> J&M Work-Ability >>> >>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> www.work-ability.co.uk >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carol Pearson >>> Sent: 11 January 2011 15:09 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini >>> >>> Think I'm beginning to want one quite badly too, Jackie. >>> >>> Does the keyboard have to be Mac, or does any chosen USB keyboard do >>> the job, or is there a dedicated keyboard socket? >>> >>> How have you found the reading of web pages using Saphari and what's >>> it like (I mean how slick, say, in comparison with Jaws) when >>> reading emails? >>> >>> -- >>> Carol P >>> ---- Original Message ---- >>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:15 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini >>> >>>> Hi Rex >>>> >>>> We have our wireless key in the Mac Mini which is downstairs, and >>>> the modem is upstairs. So we get a really good signal and it works >>>> pretty fast on Safari. >>>> I love the keyboard Martin chose as it isn't only full-size, but >>>> has a USB port on it to use for a pen or something. The Mini itself >>>> is just a small square box, and he has attached a pair of small >>>> Bose speakers to it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Jackie Cairns >>>> J&M Work-Ability >>>> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rex holmes >>>> Sent: 10 January 2011 18:31 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Mac Mini >>>> >>>> Hi Jackie >>>> Is everything with the macmini wireless? >>>> Rex >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 5:47 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Mac Mini >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi John >>>>> >>>>> My partner, Martin, has a Mac Mini. It is quite small, and the >>>>> keyboard he uses is full size. He chose the spec, which is a >>>>> 500GB hard drive, 4GB of RAM, dual core processor and CD/DVD >>>>> drive. Of course he has the Alex voice running on VoiceOver. He >>>>> has bought a full copy of Windows 7 to eventually put on there >>>>> using Fusion or something so he can swap, but just hasn't got >>>>> round to setting it up. I'm beginning to learn a few keystrokes, >>>>> and attach both my Nano and iPod Touch to it for transferring music to and from iTunes. >>>>> >>>>> I'd like a Mac of my own so I can play about with it and set it up >>>>> with my own preferences, but I wouldn't know what to choose to be >>>>> honest. The Mac Mini doesn't have a monitor as this is no good to >>>>> me, and Martin doesn't have enough sight to see the screen any more. >>>>> So he has bought an adaptor to fool the Mini into believing a >>>>> monitor is attached, and it works brilliantly. >>>>> >>>>> But as for what Mac to go for, I can't help. I need to do a bit >>>>> of homework myself if I were deadly serious about buying my own >>>>> machine. For now, I just borrow Martin's to play about with. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Jackie Cairns >>>>> J&M Work-Ability >>>>> >>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G >>>>> Sent: 10 January 2011 11:55 >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Mac mini >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> What's the general verdict on the Mac Mini? >>>>> I've been thinking about buying a Mac with a view to running both >>>>> mac OS and MS Windows on the same machine. >>>>> Moreover, as a programmer, I understand programming GUI >>>>> applications on the Mac is a less cumbersome experience, compared >>>>> to MS > Windows. >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks in advance for your input. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following >>>>> link:- >>>>> ** >>>>> [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG - 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