Hi Mike Kapten Mobility, it has to be said, is worlds better than its predecessor. And while it has nice tactile buttons and is very lightweight to use, I don't think it is accurate to within a comfortable range of where you need to get to. It doesn't appear to get a signal indoors at all, which makes planning your virtual route impossible so far as I can see. It is also a lot of dosh at £395. The speaker is clear, and I could tolerate Serena, but Trekker Breeze, comparing them like-for-like, works better for me where I live. I don't have either of them, but have enjoyed trying them out and giving an honest view as I perceive them. Different environments and opinions make it very subjective. Kind regards, Jackie Brown Twitter: @thebrownsplace -----Original Message----- From: access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael A Ray Sent: 13 September 2013 12:32 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: GPS stand-alone devices and iOS apps I don't think it's accurate to describe the Kapten Mobility as 'one step behind'. I have a Kapten Plus which I bought second hand, and which has now been superseded by the Kapten Mobility but it is very flexible, very responsive and so far I have found it very easy to use. The Trekker Breeze is, I think, technology which is several years old. The bottom line is that GPS, like most other technologies, is a moving target and devices have a very limited shelf life. It will be very interesting to see how the European GPS system, currently under development, improves accuracy, since with current GPS the accuracy is deliberately limited for public use by the US military. Mike On 13/09/2013 09:57, john gallagher wrote: > hi there > > i think this is a very good point > > technology for the blind is always many years behind and this is why > if you go main stream you will stay ahead. > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK Ham Radio Call-sign: G4XBF, licensed since 1982 Don't just sit there, learn something Raspberry VI: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ NVDA, the best free screen-reader in the world: http://www.nvda-project.org/ ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq