Ray wrote "the VI community at large is not at all well served by corporate businesses who are not best served by those who's primary responsibility is to their shareholders, not directly to the end user, i.e. VI users." Do you actually understand the difference between a business, and a charity! Of course shareholders need to be come first. It's the shareholders that take the risk with their investment in the company. Anyway are all these issues really for this list, I think not! Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq