Thanks Ibraham. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 4:43 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can't shut down! Hi. Holding the shutdown button should only be a last resort if the system won't shut down normally. Forcing a shutdown can damage data and corrupt windows if it is done too often. ----- Original Message ----- From: George Bell To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:50 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Can't shut down! Can't be 100% sure, but on most systems, be they desktop or laptop, or even netbook, you have to hold down the power on key for 5 - 10 seconds before it will power off. Just keep your finger on it until it dies. If it has not powered off after 5 minutes, put your finger in your ear, and go to bed. (Smile!) George. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 15 January 2009 23:58 To: Access-UK Subject: [access-uk] Can't shut down! Hi all - This use to happen on my desk top, and I never did get a solution for it, but it is now happening on my netbook; after using the machine for a little while, something goes wrong, and key strokes stop working, the most obvious being the Windows key, when I press it, instead of geting the start menu, absolutely nothing happens! If I press the Win key and M for the desk top, nothing happens, and eventually, no matter which key I press, I get a dunk sound, and can only use the power button to shut down. Does anybody know of a way round this, so I don't have to use the power button to force a shut down? Thanks - Andy -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1111 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message