[access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:55:50 +0100
Yes Ian, I appreciate that. I do not know if Pure will take up
the challenge, but it strikes me that their range of gear -
tuners and radios - would be a good choice for reasons already
stated. The tuners from this firm are particularly good in that
they have 99 presets.
Very quick thoughts on priorities:
1. Feedback voice to be separate from audio output of tuner -
separate speaker.
2. Ability to turn on/off information voice.
3. Anouncment of station name.
4. Anoucement of scrolling info. i.e. name of music or prgram
going out if available.
Maybe some audible confirmation that scvanning is in progress
when setting up or rescanning. Would be very useful if speech
output could anouncce what new stations have been found.
Sure I haven't been very thorough here, but I'm in a hurry.
HTH
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
Hi Ray,=20
Thanks for your thoughts. Just to be clear, it was the
manufacturer who =
asked the question of me, not me who asked them. However, now
they've sh=
own willing, I think it's as well to give them every
encouragement to pro=
ceed. Feedback from you and everyone else has been very useful
so thanks=
again.
Cheers now.
Ian
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf =
Of Ray's Home
Sent: 27 October 2004 16:59
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
I do not quite understand where this idea of approaching a
single=20
manufacturer is coming from, except it may be that you have to=20
start somewhere, so to speak.
I would hope that, eventually, a generic solution or interface=20
will be arrived at whereby any DAB set could have an optional=20
speech module addeed for accessability. Just a pitty there is=20
always change and pointless format wars in things like sim
cards=20
and so on.
So, just for the record, I'd go with the Pure II, if it has to
be=20
one set only that's going to set an example.
Ray
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From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
I think Dave is correct here, though I think the Evoke 2 is a=20
good place to
start from. However a better criteria might be how willing
such=20
a
manufacturer would be to at least assist in co-development of=20
such a
product, and also whether the guts of the radio can be
relatively=20
easily
adapted as you would have to be tapping in to the registers of=20
the
microprocessor or lines to the display to intercept this=20
information, it's
usually a case of knowing how they code for the display.
Finally=20
you would
consider what percentage of the total unit cost adding the
speech=20
is going
to run to. In consumer electronics terms about 30 percent
would=20
at a rough
guess be the ceiling so you're looking at a talking chipset=20
costing between
from =A35 to =A315 per unit.
I would suggest that whatever speech functionality is
specified=20
should be
quite simple and basic as a proof of concept to start with.=20
Manufacturers
will become reluctant if things get too complicated. I think=20
that's what
put Roberts off producint a similar proof of concept some
years=20
ago on this
matter.
Hope it goes well.
Regards.
Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk
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From: "Dave" <groups.dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
I suspect we're all going to vote for the set we have, and I'm=20
goingto say
the Evoke 2. As for the conflict, there needs to be a speech=20
menu where you
can control the speech by switching on or off particular=20
features. One item
would need to control if the speech blocked the radio while in=20
progress or
was simultaneous. Then, the user, not the manufacturer could=20
decide.
The evoke 2 has dab and fm presets, good sound, good
reception,=20
is portable
and can, if you really want to, be wired to a hifi.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "UK Radiolist" <uk-radio-listeners@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS
Hi all, and for once, no apology for cross-posting as this is
a=20
subject
which has come up on both these lists. Indeed, if anyone
feels=20
impelled
to pass this on to the DAB list, feel entirely free. Anyone=20
should also
feel free about responding to me privately as my aim is to
canvas=20
views
as well as stimulate discussion.
I'm in very preliminary discussions with a rep from a DAB=20
manufacturer
about the possibility of producing a DAB radio with speech.=20
That's to
say, he's asked me the initial question, would a talking radio
be=20
a good
idea? Naturally I've immediately replied that it would very
much=20
indeed
be a good thing. So, following that up, could people think
about=20
the
following.
Is there one set currently available from any manufacturer
that=20
people
would like to see adapted for speech output?
Which functions would you prioritise as being accessible
through=20
speech?
For example, would people prefer to have station identification
available=
over Radiotext?
How would people feel about potential conflicts between
station=20
output
and speech information?
Any other comments, suggestions very much welcome,
particularly=20
in the
spirit that they seem up for this.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Cheers now.
Ian
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