Okay Alex, if you can get all the manufacturers across the piste to agree that they will from now on make all their sets accessible by speech, good luck to you. In the meantime, I'm just doing what I can. We have a saying where I come from. Half a loaf is better than no bread at all. Cheers now. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Stone To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 6:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS Yes, but at the initial stage, it doesn't do to cause ourselves problems by limiting ourselves to one radio I would have thought. Cheers. Alex -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Tristram Llewellyn Sent: 27 October 2004 16:10 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS I think Dave is correct here, though I think the Evoke 2 is a good place to start from. However a better criteria might be how willing such a manufacturer would be to at least assist in co-development of such a product, and also whether the guts of the radio can be relatively easily adapted as you would have to be tapping in to the registers of the microprocessor or lines to the display to intercept this information, it's usually a case of knowing how they code for the display. Finally you would consider what percentage of the total unit cost adding the speech is going to run to. In consumer electronics terms about 30 percent would at a rough guess be the ceiling so you're looking at a talking chipset costing between from £5 to £15 per unit. I would suggest that whatever speech functionality is specified should be quite simple and basic as a proof of concept to start with. Manufacturers will become reluctant if things get too complicated. I think that's what put Roberts off producint a similar proof of concept some years ago on this matter. Hope it goes well. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <groups.dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS I suspect we're all going to vote for the set we have, and I'm goingto say the Evoke 2. As for the conflict, there needs to be a speech menu where you can control the speech by switching on or off particular features. One item would need to control if the speech blocked the radio while in progress or was simultaneous. Then, the user, not the manufacturer could decide. The evoke 2 has dab and fm presets, good sound, good reception, is portable and can, if you really want to, be wired to a hifi. Cheers Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx> To: "UK Radiolist" <uk-radio-listeners@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: [access-uk] ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS Hi all, and for once, no apology for cross-posting as this is a subject which has come up on both these lists. Indeed, if anyone feels impelled to pass this on to the DAB list, feel entirely free. Anyone should also feel free about responding to me privately as my aim is to canvas views as well as stimulate discussion. I'm in very preliminary discussions with a rep from a DAB manufacturer about the possibility of producing a DAB radio with speech. That's to say, he's asked me the initial question, would a talking radio be a good idea? Naturally I've immediately replied that it would very much indeed be a good thing. So, following that up, could people think about the following. Is there one set currently available from any manufacturer that people would like to see adapted for speech output? Which functions would you prioritise as being accessible through speech? For example, would people prefer to have station identification available over Radiotext? How would people feel about potential conflicts between station output and speech information? Any other comments, suggestions very much welcome, particularly in the spirit that they seem up for this. Look forward to hearing from you. Cheers now. Ian http://www.bbc.co.uk/ - World Wide Wonderland This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. 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