[access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS

  • From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:27:01 +0100

It wouldn't be economic to modify more than one or two sets that already 
exist.  However in the future if a suitable chipset specification could be 
made and eventually fabricated then you could introduce this to many new 
modes at the design stage.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:59 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


I do not quite understand where this idea of approaching a single
manufacturer is coming from, except it may be that you have to
start somewhere, so to speak.

I would hope that, eventually, a generic solution or interface
will be arrived at whereby any DAB set could have an optional
speech module addeed for accessability.  Just a pitty there is
always change and pointless format wars in things like sim cards
and so on.

So, just for the record, I'd go with the Pure II, if it has to be
one set only that's  going to set an example.
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tris-l@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


I think Dave is correct here, though I think the Evoke 2 is a
good place to
start from.  However a better criteria might be how willing such
a
manufacturer would be to at least assist in co-development of
such a
product, and also whether the guts of the radio can be relatively
easily
adapted as you would have to be tapping in to the registers of
the
microprocessor or lines to the display to intercept this
information, it's
usually a case of knowing how they code for the display.  Finally
you would
consider what percentage of the total unit cost adding the speech
is going
to run to.  In consumer electronics terms about 30 percent would
at a rough
guess be the ceiling so you're looking at a talking chipset
costing between
from £5 to £15 per unit.

I would suggest that whatever speech functionality is specified
should be
quite simple and basic as a proof of concept to start with.
Manufacturers
will become reluctant if things get too complicated.  I think
that's what
put Roberts off producint a similar proof of concept some years
ago on this
matter.

Hope it goes well.

Regards.

Tristram Llewellyn
Sight and Sound Technology
Technical Support
www.sightandsound.co.uk

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave" <groups.dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 3:31 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


I suspect we're all going to vote for the set we have, and I'm
goingto say
the Evoke 2.  As for the conflict, there needs to be a speech
menu where you
can control the speech by switching on or off particular
features.  One item
would need to control if the speech blocked the radio while in
progress or
was simultaneous.  Then, the user, not the manufacturer could
decide.

The evoke 2 has dab and fm presets, good sound, good reception,
is portable
and can, if you really want to, be wired to a hifi.

Cheers
Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "UK Radiolist" <uk-radio-listeners@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] ADDING SPEECH TO DAB RADIOS


Hi all, and for once, no apology for  cross-posting as this is a
subject
which has come up on both these lists.  Indeed, if anyone feels
impelled
to pass this on to the DAB list, feel entirely free.  Anyone
should also
feel free about responding to me privately as my aim is to canvas
views
as well as stimulate discussion.
I'm in very preliminary discussions with a rep from a DAB
manufacturer
about the possibility of producing a DAB radio with speech.
That's to
say, he's asked me the initial question, would a talking radio be
a good
idea?  Naturally I've immediately replied that it would very much
indeed
be a good thing.  So, following that up, could people think about
the
following.

Is there one set currently available from any manufacturer that
people
would like to see adapted for speech output?

Which functions would you prioritise as being accessible through
speech?
For example, would people prefer to have station identification
available over Radiotext?

How would people feel about potential conflicts between station
output
and speech information?

Any other comments, suggestions very much welcome, particularly
in the
spirit that they seem up for this.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Cheers now.

Ian

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