My two cents…..and I really don’t want to offend anyone.
I really don’t care about all risks, effort, analysis, assumptions and all
other stuff that would be important in the real world.
But this….for me personally…..and yes, I am gonna say it…..it is a game.
If I die in the sim, though luck…if somebody gets away by cheating / hacks
whatever…..again though luck
I will be shitting about it for the first 5 seconds but after that I won’t care.
I just want to have fun, it has to be a bit formal with a chain of command, but
not overly managed, but also just for the fun and roleplay
The whole scheme and I really appreciate the time and effort that was put in,
but it really all sounds like work to me…….making everything SMART……
For some people it works very well, for some it won’t.
For me, it won’t, at least not for a game in my free time.
If we don’t like to fly together, if we don’t have match….though luck, we still
have fun with each other and will continue the search for others to fly with.
This is my view only and I did not speak to anyone about it.
I just wanted to share my point of view.
Not everyone is the same and will act differently when situations occur.
Grtz,
Dutch
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Subject: [56raf_firebirds] Re: Sunday night evaluation.
Well, as I said, change the entries in the boxes to what you want to get out of
it, I think you’ve already put more down in writing than you did before, or
that you put on the forums, so now 56 know what you intend to do and how you
see this going, so that’s a good thing, all I’m saying is look back at this
email in a month and see if it’s working:
Are you gel’ing
Do you get on
Is there common ground on how you operate
Are having more fun
Has it spiced up squad nights
Are you more involved with the community
“How” do you “know” if it’s working out, will you poll all the pilots?
As for me over complicating it, your list of goals is way longer than mine :)
Good luck
Witch
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On 16 Jan 2020, at 22:11, Michael Colby (Redacted sender "michael.colby82" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Sorry Witch, but this is not what I wanted at all when I took the initiative to
get some teamwork going with another squad. I see this as all to formal and a
bit too intense. I would like to take things slowly and see how they develop.
My approach is that we need to get to now each other first and see how we get
on and see if we gel as a group.
Lets just take it easy and see what they like to do and how they would like to
play things and look at what we do and see if we find common ground. The main
thing I want to achieve is to have some fun, freshen up our squad nights and
get us a little more involved with the community. Small steps and see how we
go. I don't want to overwhelm any pilots who would like to take a less formal
approach.
Lets wait and see what transpires. I have some thoughts in mind and have
spoken on teamspeak with some of our regular pilots and chewed the cud with
Bojack (CO 322) already. Thank you for your input, but I am sure we will all
know whether it is working for them and us after a few weeks of friendly flying
without statistics and targets, which I don't want or intend to get into.
Happy landings,
Talisman
On Thursday, 16 January 2020, 21:33:07 GMT, Lee Fisher
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi all,
I’m sure Talisman is busy arranging Sunday night’s joint action with 322 Sqn, I
offer this to help us to all make sure we get the most out of it and make sure
everyone is clear about what exactly it is we want to get out of it!
An example of an evaluation of the upcoming joint mission with 322 Sqn. By all
means change the criteria in the boxes as I’ve put down what I think might be
the intention, if you do change it, start at the top and work across and then
down, I strongly suggest you get input from 322 Sqn as well, as I said before
it might clarify some points about working together before Sunday evenings
first meeting together!
As for the table:
The Goal is what you want to get out of it, with detail included.
Outcomes is where you want to be at the end of the evaluation period.
Outputs are what you need to do to achieve the outcomes.
Activities are details of what each mission should intend to achieve.
Risks/Assumptions are the things that can work for or against you.
56 Sqn & 322 Sqn - Joint Attack Wing - Evaluation.
PROJECT SUMMARY
INDICATORS
MEANS OF VERIFICATION
RISKS / ASSUMPTIONS
Goal
1, To make more effective strikes on enemy ground targets.
2, To close ground targets in one attack.
3, To have fewer losses.
Number of ground targets destroyed.
Number of our losses.
Compare mission results to current statistics for November and December, for
both Squadrons.
More of “us” will make it through.
Outcomes
To destroy more ground targets per pilot.
Ideally, close targets in one strike.
Fewer losses of our a/c.
Higher number of ground targets destroyed, by %.
Whole targets closed in one attack.
Fewer losses.
Statistics.
Results over 4 missions are better than previously attained.
Honest and thorough debriefings resulting in the evolution of briefings and
tactics.
Outputs
Mission planning done alternatively by 56 & 322 Squadrons.
“Appropriately” detailed and short briefings for route, formations and targets.
Planes lost en route, if/when intercepted.
Planes lost over target.
Statistics of attack.
statistics of targets destroyed.
Planes lost to: E/A, AAA, Other
Quality of briefings & briefings understood
Shared learning of tactics.
Everyone understands the briefing, in full.
Activities
Alternate mission planning, ideally on the same targets on different nights.
Thorough Briefings but not too lengthy
Escorts to get Jabo’s to target and to clear target before strike.
Jabo’s to hit briefed targets
Statistics > planes lost (strike & escort), targets destroyed, was the target
closed.
Individual pilot skills. Formation of Jabo’s, Escort tactics.
Knowledge of target closure requirement.
