You're right Roke. Though we spent too much time over target because of
my seat change problem, us bombers left before the bandits arrived. You
fighters should have been able to look after yourselves.
Stickz is thinking like the unescorted singleton bomber he often is.
56RAF_phoenix
On 10/04/2021 21:13, Joe Stronach (Redacted sender jstronach for DMARC)
wrote:
Well, I'm only qualified to comment about the escort side of things... And to be fair, I'd rather see some action than have a clean getaway, even if it's not operationally ideal. So I'll accept a longer time over the target if I get a good fight as a result. Emphasis on 'good' not 'hopeless' mind you... I also like to rtb as my #1 priority 😉
My view on the La5s range is based on anecdotal evidence that with a full lean mixture, it has quite long legs. I have not tested this in any kind of scientific way though, so may be mistaken. I'll try and test it properly at some point. Even if I'm wrong about that, flying La5s on Wednesday would have enabled us to a) force the enemy to start turning, and likely kill them as a result; or b) increase the probability that they would have declined to chase us south east as we were basically un-catchable.
Having said all that, Colin's point about the scenario is completely right... Pod and I were shot down on Wednesday because we didn't pick up the enemy fighters following us, and I at least had relaxed a little as a result. That wasn't the Spitfires fault.
Roke
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Tbh, I don’t know.
He told me it was the cable. When looking right the screen goes black...
Pod
> Op 10 apr. 2021 om 17:49 heeft Colin <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Ok mate, usb with ryzen motherboard problem or just the cable being faulty?
>
> Colin
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 10 Apr 2021, at 08:14, Martin Jaspers <mjaspers23@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> JaVA does escort us sometimes still, but Biggles is having massive cable problems with his G2 cable and when he is not there the others don’t join. I guess they are flying DCS then.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Pod
>>
>>>> Op 10 apr. 2021 om 08:15 heeft Colin Pack <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>> Yeah don’t know enough about VVS aircraft as I don’t fly them much if hardly at all. To provide that sort of information, maybe someone who flies VVS aircraft a lot can give us a run down on what the VVS aircraft can do? Or they can do some testing to find out?
>>>
>>> Does Java squad not provide escort for you any more?
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>>> On 9 Apr 2021, at 16:24, tim foster <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> looked at that mission, I was 2min30 ish for 3 bomb runs, then phoenix in. My last damage indicated was after 5mins over target. Then on top of that cina (and pod?) were a minute earlier SEAD. Thats 6mins, plus time for early warning to come up on ingress, and for us to get 15km away another couple. 8minutes, at 500kph puts us under threat from anything within 37miles/60kms. Even knocking off the 2.5mins whilst phoenix got out the back seat thats too long.
>>>> On other hand it appears cina and pod got rid of 3 flak which would have been a real threat to us.
>>>> As opposed to the second that was 1min20 over target (and somehow it appears I bought 8 bombs home).
>>>> As for escort plane - you guys know that more than me, but I do not think LA5FN would have had range so running out faster may not have been a possibility either.
>>>
>>
>
