Hi Ron, ZA is getting a lot of flack over this latest update. Zone Alarm FAQ for ZA pro has this to say; http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/support/zap/generalFAQs.jsp it tells you that only certain AV programs will work on the AV monitoring Antivirus Monitoring Feature Not Recognizing My Antivirus Overview The Antivirus Monitoring feature does not recognize the antivirus program I'm running on my computer. Solution Currently, the Antivirus Monitoring feature will recognize the following Antivirus products: - SYMANTEC Norton Internet Security Pro 2004 Norton AV Pro 2004 Norton Internet Security 2003 Norton AV 2003 Norton AV Pro 2003 Norton AV 2002 - MCAFEE VirusScan ASAP Internet Security 2004 VirusScan 2004 VirusScan Pro 2004 Internet Security 2003 VirusScan 7 VirusScan Pro 7 VirusScan Pro 6 - TREND MICRO Internet Security 2004 Pc-cillin 2003 Pc-cillin 2002 - COMPUTER ASSOCIATES eTrust Antivirus 7 eTrust EZ Antivirus 6.0 eTrust EZ Antivirus 6.1 eTrust EZ Antivirus 6.2 The Antivirus Monitoring feature is designed to keep your computer safe by detecting installed antivirus software products and alerting you to lapses in protection. This feature can be considered a second line of defense -- in the event your AV auto update feature has been disabled, we will notifyyou that there is an update for your AV program available. We recognize that there are many antivirus solutions available to consumers, and we are researching the possibility of recognizing additional antivirus programs in the future. Although your antivirus program may not be recognized by the AV monitoring feature, this in no way affects the protection of the firewall or of your antivirus program. ++ There is more on the web site. Mike ~ one of the Moderators It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews http://www.mwn.ca/ *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 30/05/2004 at 8:55 PM Ron Allen wrote: To my great dismay and displeasure, I must report that the latest upgrade to Zone Alarm Pro _requires_ that Trend Micro Anti-Virus be uninstalled. I am now in the position of having to choose between whether I want the best-rated firewall or the best-rated anti-virus software. Either way, I will have to eat the cost of the package I do not choose and also have to accept an inferior and/or unproven product. Am I the only one who finds this situation to be totally unacceptable? Microsoft tried to force their customers into accepting their web browser, which they were including with Windows at no additional charge, instead of Netscape, which at the time was a free download. They were sued under the anti-trust laws and found to have broken those laws. In my opinion, this situation is even worse. At least Microsoft didn't intentionally disable Netscape or tell their users they had to uninstall it before they could install Windows. I know for a fact that Internet Explorer and Netscape co-existed peacefully on Windows systems because I myself ran Netscape for years and never had problems (until Netscape was bought by AOL and totally trashed, the way that AOL screws everything they touch up). Either way, the end users who have chosen -- chosen, mind you, and paid for the privilege as well -- both Zone Alarm Pro as the best available firewall product and Trend Micro as the best available anti-virus product are caught in the middle and end up the losers. I am writing to the FTC tonight. Does anyone know how to go about starting up aclass-action lawsuit? I'm going to take a financial loss here, no matter which way I go and I don't think I should have to foot the bill for these companies deciding that they don't want to play nice with each other. I wonder how many other people are in the same boat I am... maybe enough to make these arrogant software companies sit up and take notice? Maybe... Ron For a web-based membership management utility and information on list policies, please see http://nibec.com/24hoursupport/ To unsubscribe, send a blank email to 24hoursupport-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the subject.