Hi Jeff, you could try using MSCONFIG to tempoarily remove programs from your start up to see if one of them is causing the problem. Here is the text from the Help file in msconfig window; <text> indicates a hyperlink. To start System Configuration Utility System Configuration Utility (Msconfig.exe) automates the routine troubleshooting steps that Microsoft Technical Support engineers use when diagnosing issues with the Windows 98 configuration. This tool permits you to modify the system configuration through a process of elimination with check boxes, reducing the risk of typing errors previously associated with Notepad and System Configuration Editor. System Configuration Utility also can create a backup copy of your system files before you begin a troubleshooting session. Create backup copies of your system files to ensure that the modifications made during your troubleshooting session can be reversed. <Click here> to start System Configuration Utility. Important Back up your current system configuration files with Msconfig before the troubleshooting session begins to ensure that changes made during this session are reversible. To do so, click the General tab, click Create Backup, and then click OK. For more information on using System Configuration Utility, click Help in the System Configuration Utility window. What's Next? [ ] <Create a clean environment for troubleshooting> Here is an exelent site which explains which programs you can sutdown from " msconfig " msconfig, is a Win 98 DOS comand, you can starti it by going to; Start> Run, and in the box which opens go to the 'start up' tab. You can add and remove programs fron the Windows startup by removing the check-marks. You will need to reboot afterwards to activate your choices. http://www2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm Many new users are concerned about the low level of system resources available to them. Much of the problem can be due to the number of programs which are loaded and run when the system starts up. In an effort to clarify what these programs are and whether they are necessary the following list is provided. Programs are color-coded to aid in determining whether they are necessary. Those which must not be removed have their names in red, those which can be removed without a problem are in green, and those which may or may not be required are in yellow. Be sure to back up your registry before making any changes! Click Start, and select Run, then type in MSCONFIG and click OK. In the 'General' tag, click 'Create Backup'. I hope this helps. Mike ~ It is a good day if I learned something new. Editor MikesWhatsNews see ~ http://www.mwn.ca <mikeswhatsnews-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe> See my Anti-Virus pages ~ http://virusinfo.hackfix.org A Technical Support Alliance Charter Member http://groups.yahoo.com/group/techsupportalliance/ *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 10/11/2002 at 12:50 PM Jeffrey Needle wrote: Hello all. I wonder if someone here can give me some guidance. Over the last few weeks, my computer has been behaving badly. At first it was just a slight annoyance; now it's a major pain in the butt. When first starting the computer, everything goes well. Then, when I attempt to do anything from the desktop -- download e-mail, even move an icon from a subfolder to the desktop, which is what I did first thing this morning -- the disk spins forever and ever, the system freezes up, and finally releases the system so I can continue. This morning, the delay was the longest ever -- 50 minutes! The disk access light just flickered and burned, and no mouse movements or keystrokes did a darned thing. After 50 minutes, the system finally freed up and I was able to continue. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? I thought maybe the disk drive was dying, but this only happens once, just after I've started the PC. For the rest of the day, it behaves fine. I'm running Win98. Thanks! ------------------ Jeffrey Needle jeff.needle@xxxxxxxxxxx or jeffneedle@xxxxxxx ~*~*~*~*~ Was this forwarded to you? Want to subscribe? Send an email to 1stpickpchelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe. For a complete list of email commands for our list send an email to ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of "info 1stpickpchelp" without the quotes. If you wish to unsubscribe from our list send an email to 1stpickpchelp-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe To contact the list moderators send an email to 1stpickpchelp-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ~*~*~*~*~