I had a short response to this, I held it out, and it becamse a too long response to this. So I'll just make a few brief notes here, and see what I can do with the rest of my stuff later. --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "iro3isdx" <xznwrjnk-evca@...> wrote: > > Yes, it is all about symbols. There's a lot of talk about > numbers, but those are symbols, too. 1. Computing machines. 2. Definitions. Automatic machines. Computing machines. Circle and circle-free numbers. Computable sequences and numbers. 3. Examples of computing machines. 4. Abbreviated tables Further examples. 5. Enumeration of computable sequences. 6. The universal computing machine. 7. Detailed description of the universal machine. 8. Application of the diagonal process. 9. The extent of the computable numbers. 10. Examples of large classes of numbers which are computable. 11. Application to the Entscheidungsproblem. There is some talk of numbers, and even some talk of symbols, but the historical value of the paper is clearly in the process and machine points. It was never about numbers as such, nor about symbols with external meaning. It uses these things much as it uses the 26 alphabetic letters, to make such points as it makes, but it is not about the Roman alphabet as such. > It's a > mathematics paper, after all. And mathematics is very much an > intentional activity. Whether you are a formalist, a logicist, a > platonist, a fictionalist, a constructivist, an intuitionist, or > even a nominalist (Hartry Field style), mathematics is an > intentional activity. Writing any paper on any subject is an intentional activity, but if I write a paper about rocks, that does not mean rocks are intentional agents. It would seem to me that, depending on which style of mathematics is being done, this would imply a different form of intentionality anyway. So, (at the risk of drifting away from nominalism in the direction of intentionality - before we are ready to do so) what do you even mean, in this context, by intentionality? Josh Group Home Page: http://seanwilson.org/wittgenstein.discussion.html Group Discussion Board: http://seanwilson.org/forum/ Google Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs FreeList Archive: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs FreeList for September: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009 FreeList for August: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/08-2009 Group Creator's Page: http://seanwilson.org/ Today's Messages: http://alturl.com/whcf Messages From Last 3 Days: http://alturl.com/d9vz This Week's Messages: http://alturl.com/yeza Yahoo Archive: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/