[wisb] Re: Status of Certain Birds (No Sightings)
- From: Chris West <little_blue_birdie@xxxxxxx>
- To: Jesse Ellis <calocitta8@xxxxxxxxx>, wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:16:04 -0600
Good point Jesse. It def is ultimately up to you to decide what you count and
what you dont
--Chris W, Richland county
Sent from my iPod
On Jan 19, 2011, at 12:08, Jesse Ellis <calocitta8@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> WSO and the ABA are independent bodies; I believe all state bird
> organizations are. Each maintains its own list of acceptable and unacceptable
> records for the state, so I would argue that WSO may indeed define
> "countability", for itself. Like any list or listing event, "Acceptable" or
> "countable" is defined by the body to whom you wish to submit the list -
> whether yourself, WSO, or the ABA. I'm not certain, but it may be that in
> cases of rarities, the ABA defers to the state records body to determine
> whether the rarity was sufficiently documented - thus it would have to be
> accepted by the state body before becoming acceptable on an ABA list. However
> clearly the latter applies to rarities, not necessarily introduced birds.
>
> I don't mean to be a pedant about that, but I prefer to differentiate between
> the American Birding Association and other organizations with respect to
> records. For example, the AOU also maintains a list of species accepted to
> have occurred on the continent; in many cases the ABA takes the AOU's lead.
> To each their own, with respect to listing. It mostly depends on who you want
> to recognize your list.
>
> I, personally, nearly hit 250 last year, but that included a "non-countable"
> species, specifically the Whooping Crane. Damned if I'm not counting them.
>
> Jesse Ellis,
> Madison
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Chris West <little_blue_birdie@xxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> If I recall right, that info is not on the WSO website. The reason being
> that countability is not governed by the state. It's done by the ABA. You
> can print a copy of the ABA checklist from their website. Every species on
> it has been given a number code. From 1 for the most common, to 5 for
> extinct/ uncountable species. Anything from 1-4 is deemed countable.
>
> Whooping crane is a special case in WI since there are two flocks. A wild
> flock in Canada that migrates through the central plains, and a human-raised,
> human-dependent, non-wild flock in WI. The Canada birds are countable. The
> WI birds are not and will not be for some time to come.
>
> The official rules for countability can also be found on the ABA website.
> Generally, the population must be established and self-sustaining to be
> considered countable.
>
>
> --Chris W, Richland county
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jan 19, 2011, at 9:04, Mikko Viljamaa <mikko.viljamaa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi WiBi,
> > Now when I'm indisputably approaching the 200-species milestone - no smirks
> > please ; ) - I became curious about the status of some birds on my list
> > like for example Mute Swan and Whooping Crane. I tried to research WSO's web
> > page but didn't find any information from there about species which are not
> > considered to be "wild" or are considered for example to be "introduced".
> > Any idea from where I can find this info?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mikko, Kaukauna (Outagamie)
> >
> >
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> Jesse Ellis
> Madison, Dane Co, WI
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