[wisb] Re: Great Gray Owl
- From: steven lubahn <stevenlubahn@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Birdnet, Wis" <wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 05:57:35 -0600
All,
A birds welfare and safety always come first!
Yes, Nobody has the right to determine who gets to see the bird or not. But,
everyone has an opportunity to make the situation better. If it means, not
sharing your experience on the list for no other reason but to reduce the
traffic to see the owl, then that is a good idea. This situation is different
than other rare bird reports, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that
out. We are not the bad guys but our continued posts might be alerting future
baiters and trespassers. And, I think this owls had enough.
Steven Lubahn
Cudahy
Milwaukee Co.
On Mar 7, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Sunil Gopalan wrote:
> The public announcement of the location of this bird enabled me to enjoy one
> of the most fabulous birding experiences I've had.
> But - the subsequent events have led me to conclude that my personal
> enjoyment cannot come at even the chance of an adverse consequence for the
> bird. If you don't know/trust me, I don't think you should tell me... simply
> not worth it.
>
> This is of course a personal opinion, and everyone is entitled to one. I
> don't think anyone is advocating a secret list within a list. But announcing
> a bird like this one should be a personal decision made by the original
> finder - and they get to determine the scope of who they will trust with the
> information.
>
> (In case anyone was wondering, the miscreants involved with this owl baiting
> did get their information from this listserv.)
>
> This is primarily a birding list, and I'll quote one of the first lines in
> the ABA code of ethics:
>
> In any conflict of interest between birds and birders, the welfare of the
> birds and their environment comes first.
>
>
>
> Sunil Gopalan - Madison, WI - Dane Co.
>
> On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:40 PM, David Freriks <dhfreriks@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Cynthia, so who entails " birders we can trust" ? Nothing like a little
>> censorship based on personal opinions. A birder on the other list wa
>> getting railed on for possibly being not trustworthy when in fact he was a
>> birding
>> the guy that originaly questioned the baiters about what they were doing. I
>> guess we need to start making an official list.. Dave Freriks.
>> Hartford. WI
>>
>> On Thursday, March 7, 2013, Cynthia Bridge <cynthiabridge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>> I don't want to resume a big debate about sharing owl sightings.
>> However, maybe it's time we birders stop openly publicizing this bird is
>> still present and deal with RsFI on this bird from trusted birders through
>> the backchannels.
>>>
>>> Cynthia Bridge
>>> Fort Atkinson, Jefferson.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Paul Schwalbe <p.g6schwalbe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Birders:
>>>> When we arrived at the Great Gray Owl location at about 10:10 this
>> morning,
>>>> there were already about 11 cars there. The owl was perched in the large
>>>> tree
>>>> on the east side of the road, right where the snow-mobile trail makes a
>>>> turn.
>>>> Everyone was enjoying the owl for about 45 minutes, when things turned
>> sour.
>>>> This whole time there were two individuals half way up the hill on the
>> west
>>>> side
>>>> of the road, in camouflaged suits, each with a large lens on their
>> camera.
>>>> They
>>>> didn't join the rest of us down on the road.
>>>>
>>>> Then about 10:55 +/- the owl flew to a fence post, then crossed the road
>> to
>>>> the
>>>> west and landed in the snow just past a group of trees. At that time the
>>>> two
>>>> individuals up on the hill approached the owl, and appeared to throw
>> items
>>>> in the snow
>>>> which attracted the owl to them. We didn't see the owl pick anything up.
>>>> Doing this four or five times, they drew the owl up toward and to the
>>>> house up on
>>>> top of the hill, too far away to be seen well. To bad about the 30+
>> people
>>>> down on the road, many from out of state, we want the owl up here. O
>>>> course
>>>> we're not selfish. You folks can just come back another day. Too bad!
>>>>
>>>> People on the road were looking for appropriate adjectives without much
>>>> success.
>>>>
>>>> So it goes!
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, the owl is still there and in good shape.
>>>>
>>>> Good birding..................... Paul & Glenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Paul & Glenna Schwalbe
>>>> Pardeeville, Columbia Co.
>>>>
>>>>
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